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Is intolerance getting worse on GN?

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kittylester Sun 29-Jun-25 18:35:51

I am horrified to have been told, in the last couple of days, that Rod Stewart's music should not be listened to because he supports reform and to stop watching Eastenders and read a library book.

Well, I watched Rod Stewart and am still an SDP supporter - if they only still existed!

And, the library in our village is a very successfully run community library which i helped transition from Council control -between watching episodes of Eastenders.

For goodness sake - get a grip some of you!

Galaxy Mon 30-Jun-25 19:26:30

The ones chanting at Glastonbury fir example will without a doubt think they are the good guys. Sometimes people are wrong about what is good and kind.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 30-Jun-25 19:21:38

cossy and lafergirl having compassion and being concerned about those struggling is not just a leftie trait.

Claremont Mon 30-Jun-25 19:17:43

Oreo

Threads are pulled out of a woolly jumper until there’s nothing left 😆

if nothing is 'left', some will be very please ;)

Galaxy Mon 30-Jun-25 19:15:58

I am a lefty and kindness is a funny beast, be kind often just means think like I do, and some absolutely awful things have been done under the mantle of kindness.

Cossy Mon 30-Jun-25 19:03:28

lafergar

*If you disagree with their leftie dogma they press that report button*

No they don't.

Some "leftie types" are heart sick of the way things are going. The lack of any shred of humanity from people, the hatred, the racism. " Othering " of anybody who doesn't look or sound like themselves. Some of the posts about Southport were terrible.Any kindness is met with an accusation of " virtue signaling"
There is a huge and growing gap between those who have and those who will never have.

Well said

suep1953 Mon 30-Jun-25 18:05:04

Allira

suep1953

nanna8

If I wanted to I could actually vote in the British elections as I still have citizenship. I am interested in the mess that is British politics just now because I was born and bred there and have relatives there, including a brother in law and sister in law. I am also very interested in American and New Zealand politics because I have relatives there, too. Is that a crime ? I have never, ever,said Australia is perfect , it certainly isn’t . I voted the current mob in but they are not crash hot, lots of things they do I wouldn’t but then I’m not a politician. If people don’t like comments from overseas, feel free to ignore he , I wouldn’t be offended in any way.

Sorry Nanna8 you can't vote in UK Elections, you need to be registered to vote in the constituency in which you live

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8985/

Yes, you can vote in UK elections as an overseas voter.

www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad

Overseas voter eligibility
British citizen living overseas can register to vote as an overseas voter if they meet one of two conditions:

They were previously registered to vote in UK elections, including as an overseas voter, or
They were previously resident in the UK before moving to an address abroad.
How to register
Overseas voters must apply to register in the local authority of the last address they were registered to vote or were resident.

Thanks Allira, everyday is a school day on GN.

Oreo Mon 30-Jun-25 17:49:23

Threads are pulled out of a woolly jumper until there’s nothing left 😆

escaped Mon 30-Jun-25 17:44:02

lafergar

What is ATAAT please?

ATAAT = A Thread About Another Thread

Probably not a good idea to comment on it, silly me, because another poster will then bring up another dozen threads and so it goes on! 🤣

lafergar Mon 30-Jun-25 17:38:02

What is ATAAT please?

Magenta8 Mon 30-Jun-25 17:07:57

Oreo

This is getting to ATAAT now tho so should probably knock it on the head?

I agree Oreo and yes I did take your advice. I am beginning to wish I hadn't.grin

woodenspoon Mon 30-Jun-25 17:04:25

I, too, was curious about the trousers thread so glanced through. I note nobody took umbrage about Mrs Sunak being called a zebra. I’d have thought that could be construed as a racist comment and that poster should have also been removed. Perhaps she was?
I repeat, Angela Rayner is not somebody I admire but I would imagine she was persuaded to wear that suit by a stylist perhaps. I don’t recall seeing it since. She should be judged solely on what she says and her ability to do her job. Her sartorial choices in clothes are not really relevant. I don’t suppose it’s a mistake she will repeat.

Oreo Mon 30-Jun-25 17:03:49

This is getting to ATAAT now tho so should probably knock it on the head?

Oreo Mon 30-Jun-25 17:02:37

Magenta8

I have just skim read the "Trousers" thread, all 40 pages and I stand by everything I said in my previous post.

I see you’re taking my advice about no anodyne remarks😁

Oreo Mon 30-Jun-25 17:00:56

Luckily no one ever complained about the comments on Boris and his sartorial mishaps.wink

Magenta8 Mon 30-Jun-25 16:57:31

I have just skim read the "Trousers" thread, all 40 pages and I stand by everything I said in my previous post.

Oreo Mon 30-Jun-25 16:55:44

escaped

I'm sorry you don't remember Doodledog, but the references to posters being in a clique or bullies, didn't go down well with me or others.
Thankfully most discerning posters saw the chit-chat' for what it was - an attempt by posters to take the 'heat' out of the thread. But no way did a large number get embroiled in the ^vilifying the DPM discussion.
I was removed from GN on the back of that thread, so I feel very strongly.

I remember that very well and agree with you entirely. It seems obvious that racial hatred or personal attacks should be reported ( never mind all this guff about other posters adjudicating remarks!) but general remarks about anyone in the public eye should stand.Simply because other posters happen to like that person and take umbrage with comments about them should never report but take it as ‘mature people who can take disagreements.’
The moderators can see personal attacks on other posters and don’t delete without cause.

Norah Mon 30-Jun-25 16:22:12

Never worked out why people care to their hair. They have hair, are not bald.

Surely more important issues plague the world.

Doodledog Mon 30-Jun-25 16:00:00

escaped

I'm sorry you don't remember Doodledog, but the references to posters being in a clique or bullies, didn't go down well with me or others.
Thankfully most discerning posters saw the chit-chat' for what it was - an attempt by posters to take the 'heat' out of the thread. But no way did a large number get embroiled in the ^vilifying the DPM discussion.
I was removed from GN on the back of that thread, so I feel very strongly.

I do remember - it's just that my recollections differ from yours.

But I was one of the 'uppity' posters (and that word says it all really) who objected to the way a group took it on themselves to decide that they would close the thread by 'chatting' and excluding anyone trying to make points of their own. In fact, I was the one who used the term 'mean girls', and I got several PMs thanking me for saying it.

It's water under the bridge now as far as I'm concerned, but rewriting history is really not on. I don't know who you were before, and have no wish to hold anything you may have said against you now, but it is just not true that there were a couple of posts about AR being a 'tart' - there were pages of them - and if I'm not mistaken the thread made the national press. The thread has been linked to above, so people can see for themselves. The thread was not the only one that used derogatory terms against AR at the time - not her politics, but her class, her cosmetic surgery, her accent, her 'illegitimate' child and so on, so reading the thread in isolation won't really give a flavour for the tone of GN in the weeks surrounding the GE.

Your comments above about 'discerning posters' (ie not me grin) and how I have clearly upset 'you [and] others' are noted, however. The latter sounds vaguely threatening, but I'll survive wink.

I do understand that you will feel strongly, but can assure you that I didn't report you (whoever you were at the time) and nor did I report GSM or anyone else. There was really no need in any case, as the comments spoke for themselves, and passing on legal knowledge does not give anyone a free pass to do as they please on a moderated discussion board. As I don't know what you said on the thread I have no way of knowing whether I would have approved of HQ's actions at the time or not, but if you were banned/suspended simply for filibustering then I wouldn't have, for what it's worth.

Mollygo Mon 30-Jun-25 15:46:41

Chocolatelovinggran

I don't recall anyone saying that Mr Johnson looked like a rent boy.

With a family as big as his?
I should think not. Although as I recall there were multiple often uncomplimentary comments about his ability to procreate.

You just mentioned BJ and rent boy in the same sentence though.

Allira Mon 30-Jun-25 15:44:23

rafichagran

"trouser"
www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/1338034-Angela-Rayner-ghastly-trouser-suit#:~:text=Angela%20Rayner%20ghastly-,trouser,-suit.
I think this is the link.

Interesting that a poster made harsh comments about a politician's mode of dress and appearance, was targeted and had posts deleted and has subsequently been banned.

Yet, on the same thread, said poster was in receipt of some nasty personal attacks by others who supported that politician and party. Those posts still remain.

Some posters, of course, said her comments were 'uncalled for' or 'harsh, fair enough.

Yet there is no bias on GN. Strange, that. 🤔

kittylester Mon 30-Jun-25 15:30:05

LauraNorderr

Furthermore, I do not agree with FGTs political views, wouldn’t vote for Reform, find Trump to be a dangerous man BUT
(Not shouting just emphasising) find FGT to be one of the kindest and most supportive of posters, she has helped so many through tough times with compassion and great sincerity. Now when she needs us most..,
No compassion shown by the person who has reported her, hope they have a conscience and are feeling regret.

Exactly, Laura. And she wouldn't mind that you felt

Allira Mon 30-Jun-25 15:26:33

woodenspoon

Mollygo

Woodenspoon

On the other hand, Boris has also been criticised for his hair and appearance on here many times.

Yes but he’s a bloke, and Conservative as well, so that’s different!

Of course it is. Two tier.

Spot the difference 😁

Allira Mon 30-Jun-25 14:54:43

suep1953

nanna8

If I wanted to I could actually vote in the British elections as I still have citizenship. I am interested in the mess that is British politics just now because I was born and bred there and have relatives there, including a brother in law and sister in law. I am also very interested in American and New Zealand politics because I have relatives there, too. Is that a crime ? I have never, ever,said Australia is perfect , it certainly isn’t . I voted the current mob in but they are not crash hot, lots of things they do I wouldn’t but then I’m not a politician. If people don’t like comments from overseas, feel free to ignore he , I wouldn’t be offended in any way.

Sorry Nanna8 you can't vote in UK Elections, you need to be registered to vote in the constituency in which you live

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8985/

Yes, you can vote in UK elections as an overseas voter.

www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad

Overseas voter eligibility
British citizen living overseas can register to vote as an overseas voter if they meet one of two conditions:

They were previously registered to vote in UK elections, including as an overseas voter, or
They were previously resident in the UK before moving to an address abroad.
How to register
Overseas voters must apply to register in the local authority of the last address they were registered to vote or were resident.

escaped Mon 30-Jun-25 14:41:35

I'm sorry you don't remember Doodledog, but the references to posters being in a clique or bullies, didn't go down well with me or others.
Thankfully most discerning posters saw the chit-chat' for what it was - an attempt by posters to take the 'heat' out of the thread. But no way did a large number get embroiled in the ^vilifying the DPM discussion.
I was removed from GN on the back of that thread, so I feel very strongly.

Doodledog Mon 30-Jun-25 14:24:54

No, my phone only lets me quote some posts and not others. No idea why.