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Nellbell Fri 18-Jul-25 21:03:54

Its starting to annoy me when -
I'm told "see you later" especially by people you don't know such as shop assistants. Even had this when speaking to people in call centres miles away. I now respond with "I didn't know I'd invited you to dinner".
The constant inclusion of 'like' in conversations - usually by younger people. Even if someone says it on TV, it's included in the subtitles - argh.
Sorry - rant over.

Brahumbug Mon 28-Jul-25 19:08:03

Starting the answer to a question with 'look'. Very patronising and usually done by politicians.

Magenta8 Fri 25-Jul-25 13:13:21

You are quite right. Perhaps it is more a case of "I find it annoying" rather than it is incorrect.

PoliticsNerd Fri 25-Jul-25 13:06:27

Thank you for the interesting bit about the Quakers.

I think we have to take care that we don't say things are "wrong" when it's just our preference.

Magenta8 Fri 25-Jul-25 09:11:11

PoliticsNerd

Magenta8

Attendee - whatever happened to attender. Speshulty instead of speciality. It's railway station not train station or you can even say just station. Horse riding - it's riding without a qualifier, it is bike riding, camel riding or any other sort of riding that need qualification.

"Horse riding" isn't wrong it's just none-u. Americans generally use it but I don't suppose they ever worried about keeping up with the Mitfords. I must admit I'd be suprised if anyone here still does.

You would also be going quite a long way back to when attender meant the same as attendee does now. It moved on to mean someone who waits on others while attendee is now accepted as meaning someone who attends (meetings, etc.).

Riding was the accepted term for "horse riding" long before Nancy Mitford's pernicious little book "Noblesse Oblige" came out in 1956 and set the chattering classes chattering about U and non-U. I believe Americans often say horseback riding which is even worse.

As I was brought up as a Quaker, attender was and still is a term used for someone who attends meetings of Society of Friends without or before becoming a member.

PoliticsNerd Thu 24-Jul-25 22:32:16

MaizieD

PoliticsNerd

MaizieD

Well, I'm fed up with seeing 'forbidden from', 'review into' and 'different to'. But we pedants fight a losing battle grin

I also am irritated by people saying 'language changes'. Why does it have to change into something ungrammatical every time? 👿

But what is the point about being fed up or irritated by some thing you can't change and those concerned don't care what any of us think

About as much point as your post, GN

What's the point of telling someone they can't change anything when they already know it?

I reserve the right to be as irritated or annoyed as I please.

I don't think it's the same thing though Maizie. We do all have the right to be annoyed or irritated by whatever we chose.

Expecting people to change is a head and brick wall reaction.

Oreo Thu 24-Jul-25 22:12:08

Fings ain’t wot they used to be 😁

PoliticsNerd Thu 24-Jul-25 21:12:02

Magenta8

Attendee - whatever happened to attender. Speshulty instead of speciality. It's railway station not train station or you can even say just station. Horse riding - it's riding without a qualifier, it is bike riding, camel riding or any other sort of riding that need qualification.

"Horse riding" isn't wrong it's just none-u. Americans generally use it but I don't suppose they ever worried about keeping up with the Mitfords. I must admit I'd be suprised if anyone here still does.

You would also be going quite a long way back to when attender meant the same as attendee does now. It moved on to mean someone who waits on others while attendee is now accepted as meaning someone who attends (meetings, etc.).

NanKate Wed 23-Jul-25 17:29:26

It really annoys me when someone is going to be interviewed on the radio/tv and after the introduction they immediate ask the Interviewer, who they don’t know, ‘How are you’? I like it when the Interviewer ignores the question and launches into the first question.

Magenta8 Wed 23-Jul-25 17:27:22

Attendee - whatever happened to attender. Speshulty instead of speciality. It's railway station not train station or you can even say just station. Horse riding - it's riding without a qualifier, it is bike riding, camel riding or any other sort of riding that need qualification.

Bellanonna Wed 23-Jul-25 16:42:38

Menopauselbitch

Everyone using ‘texted’ I hate it with a passion.

Why do you hate it? I hate it when someone says “I text him/her” when they’re supposedly using the past tense.

WithNobsOnIt Wed 23-Jul-25 16:40:38

See you later was, and is still used in Mancunia by people who know each other.

My pet hates are awful Americanisms Examples. Heads up, Pop. Forever Home..Lotioning. Step up to.the plate. Top of the show. Dinner instead if tea .
Multiple.

To name just a few.

Words and expressions seem to changebat at a terrific speed these days. A very intersting subject

WithNobsOnIt Wed 23-Jul-25 16:22:30

Cabbie21

I often hear people being interviewed who soon run out of words and end …….“and yeah”. I don’t mind so much if they are caught on the spot, but when it is someone invited into the studio to talk about an achievement, I am irritated.

This yeah business started in the sixties by people who were trying to look and say cool things. They were in the in know with famous people and led interesting high profilr lives.

It was used absubtle, put down. A way of trivialising everyday people and their lack lustre activities and lives.

Used extensively by luvvys, musicians and media types in the know

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Iam64 Wed 23-Jul-25 15:41:22

Suzieque66 - I generally accept people aren’t always using our language grammatically
I’ll be fizzing alongside you on sat not sitting - particularly when used by journalists who ought to know betterv

Suzieque66 Wed 23-Jul-25 15:38:15

I actually fizz in annoyance when I hear " I am sat here " NO .. you are sitting here .. it is in the present not in the past ..

Scribbles Wed 23-Jul-25 13:06:14

sodapop
I dislike hearing texes used as the plural of text.

All my exes send me texes? grin

sodapop Wed 23-Jul-25 12:24:12

I wondered that as well RosieandherMaw what is the past tense of to text ?

I dislike hearing texes used as the plural of text.

Flippinheck Wed 23-Jul-25 09:53:00

I did my first two years of secondary education at the City of Bath Girls’ School.’ I hated it. Grammar schools were supposed to cater for people exactly like me: bright children from poorer homes. We lived in MOD housing on a council estate and there was no spare money. That school did its very best to exclude children like me, starting with the uniform which was very extensive and expensive, available only from one exclusive supplier. My parents had to go into debt to pay for this. We council estate kids were all put in the bottom class, regardless of ability. It was made clear that the school didn’t expect much of us. Such open prejudice.
Luckily at the end of my second year my father transferred to Scotland and I went to the local co-ed high school where no one cared where you lived, but cared very much that we all achieved our potential. It was a quasi- comprehensive system with a lot of movement between the high and junior high (vaguely similar but better than secondary moderns) schools. The uniforms were all basic black and grey the only differences being the badges and ties. I did far better there than I would have done at the grammar school. It was back in the ‘60s so things are different now.

Magenta8 Wed 23-Jul-25 09:14:57

A very large number of GNs seem to have gone to grammar school, or even 'the grammar school', judging by the frequency with which it seems to crop up on various threads.

There is nothing wrong with having been to a grammar school it just seems to be mentioned more often than secondary modern or technical school or private school or public school or home school or any other kind of school.

Bukkie Tue 22-Jul-25 23:17:44

Math for Maths. I hiss the s like a snake to correct people.

RosieandherMaw Tue 22-Jul-25 23:00:38

Menopauselbitch

Everyone using ‘texted’ I hate it with a passion.

If the verb “ to text”: is now accepted usage, what do you think the past tense should be?

RosieandherMaw Tue 22-Jul-25 22:58:50

welbeck

You do realise that there are literally millions of people who did not go to grammar school.
Should they be cast into outer darkness.
Or are they just beneath your cognisance.

It’s nothing to do with whether one went to Grammar School or not, but how well you were taught English at Primary and Secondary level.
There are other sorts of Secondary school, you know and grammar is not the sole preserve of the Grammar school!
My Scottish primary was very hot on grammar, spelling, parts of speech etc.
We did parsing along with weekly spelling tests and our teachers laid firm foundations for our future use of written and spoken English.

Crossstitchfan Tue 22-Jul-25 19:26:33

No! You’re not!

Scribbles Tue 22-Jul-25 19:01:55

Am I the only one who's tired of hearing "hack" used to mean a tip, a fix or an improvement?

Musicgirl Tue 22-Jul-25 18:33:43

welbeck

You do realise that there are literally millions of people who did not go to grammar school.
Should they be cast into outer darkness.
Or are they just beneath your cognisance.

I am one of them. I went to a comprehensive school but I was taught well and I, along with many others who also attended comprehensive schools, are well cognisant - to use your word - of the rules of English grammar.

welbeck Tue 22-Jul-25 18:23:35

You do realise that there are literally millions of people who did not go to grammar school.
Should they be cast into outer darkness.
Or are they just beneath your cognisance.