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Cossy Wed 22-Jul-26 19:02:17

I feel, even though I’m a LP supporter, quite irritated already with Andy Burnham.

Quite honestly, even for the poorest, £45 (on average) reduction in an entire year (offset by cap rises plus the fact that this isn’t necessarily going to last for an entire year) and re-capping bus fares at £2 per journey, is this really what people want and does it truly make a “cost of living” difference.

Why, oh why, couldn’t he have simply increased the tax threshold and benefitted all low paid workers and pensioners?

We all know personal income tax will need to rise. Why not bite the bullet and just raise the threshold, then tax income tax at a higher rate?

I know he’s said he’ll look again at tax thresholds later, but it was said in such a way that I feel it simply won’t be unfrozen.

He faces all the same problems as Starmer, yet the two years work Starmer has done to try and stabilise things like the economy will simply become part of Burham’s legacy.

Maybe I need an early night and a nice glass of something? 🍷🥃🍸🍹

Oreo Wed 22-Jul-26 19:04:48

It’s only been a couple of days !! 😂

Cossy Wed 22-Jul-26 19:06:39

Oreo

It’s only been a couple of days !! 😂

I know 🤣🤣🤣

Graphite Wed 22-Jul-26 19:20:04

The short answer is yes.

The small tweaks he is announcing now can be brought into law with secondary legislation.

Major changes need to be part of an Autumn Statement with a Finance Bill that must, by law, to be debated.

Parliament is now in recess until September and immediately after that comes conference season.

Just a £500 increase in the tax personal allowance would cost £6 billion and would benefit the better off unless there are simultaneous changes to the tax bands. Some commentators favour a 1% cut in NIC.

The media is already going into meltdown over the “funding” for the two things he had already announced.

People need to be patient and let John Healey do his sums.

Cossy Wed 22-Jul-26 19:26:24

Graphite

The short answer is yes.

The small tweaks he is announcing now can be brought into law with secondary legislation.

Major changes need to be part of an Autumn Statement with a Finance Bill that must, by law, to be debated.

Parliament is now in recess until September and immediately after that comes conference season.

Just a £500 increase in the tax personal allowance would cost £6 billion and would benefit the better off unless there are simultaneous changes to the tax bands. Some commentators favour a 1% cut in NIC.

The media is already going into meltdown over the “funding” for the two things he had already announced.

People need to be patient and let John Healey do his sums.

Yes you’re right. However, a cut in NI wouldn’t benefit any pensioners ? (Not just thinking about me, honestly!)

TerriBull Wed 22-Jul-26 19:37:03

Oh give him a chance! and in particular give the New Chancellor a chance. Rachel Reeves' strategies were ruinous for business and had the onerous knock on effect of a whole swathe of the younger generation unable to get that vital first step on the employment ladder. I hope there will be some backtracking on at least the NI hikes which have seen many small business fold, particularly in the hospitality sector, or where larger organisations are concerned, place a moratorium on recruiting, training and investment.

AGAA4 Wed 22-Jul-26 19:37:09

A cut in NI may help all the young people who can't find work. I would prefer to see help for them.
Raising the tax threshold may help pensioners a little but the rich a lot.

Graphite Wed 22-Jul-26 19:39:21

I agree with Dan Neidle when he says that, right now, pensioners pay a significantly lower rate of tax than working people - which is hard to justify.

If you want the detail read:

taxpolicy.org.uk/2026/07/21/personal-allowance-or-national-insurance-cut/

Healey needs to do something about the administrative problem that has arisen around fiscal drag and the State Pension but it is only an administrative problem.

Cossy Wed 22-Jul-26 19:39:35

TerriBull

Oh give him a chance! and in particular give the New Chancellor a chance. Rachel Reeves' strategies were ruinous for business and had the onerous knock on effect of a whole swathe of the younger generation unable to get that vital first step on the employment ladder. I hope there will be some backtracking on at least the NI hikes which have seen many small business fold, particularly in the hospitality sector, or where larger organisations are concerned, place a moratorium on recruiting, training and investment.

I know!! I know you’re all right and as I said, I think I’m having “a moment”

AGAA4 Wed 22-Jul-26 19:43:36

Cossy I think it must be wine o'clock for you 😊

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-Jul-26 19:46:20

I think this shows what a real issue we have now in our relationship with politicians and politics.

Take us back say 30-40 years, and the population would never have expected instant gratification, understanding that time is needed to develop policy, time to produce legislation etc.

What has happened since apart from social media I can’t explain, but until we begin to behave with more maturity regarding to expectations, our politics is never going to have stability.

MollyNew Wed 22-Jul-26 19:55:03

Governing the country takes a bit longer than Amazon Next Day delivery or Deliveroo.