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Trump said: ā€œOn immigration you better get your act together or you’re not going to have Europe anymore.ā€

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 25-Jul-25 22:18:56

The US president said that a ā€œhorrible invasionā€ was taking place, adding it had to ā€œstopā€, shortly after touching down on Air Force One at Glasgow Airport.

ā€œAsked about illegal migration to Britain, Mr Trump said: ā€œOn immigration you better get your act together or you’re not going to have Europe anymore.ā€
He continued: ā€œYou’ve got to stop this horrible invasion that is happening to Europe, many countries in Europe.ā€
ā€œSome leaders have not let it happen, and they’re not getting the proper credit... I could name them to you right now, but I’m not going to embarrass the other ones. But stop, this immigration is killing Europe.ā€
Mr Trump, who has made border control a key priority of his presidency, said: ā€œLast month we had nobody entering our country.ā€

Well done Trump. He’s not wrong! šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 15:22:32

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I hear what you’re saying WwMk2 about the stance West Sussex council are stating.

But why is the hotel (and videos) in the Telegraph article assumed to be lies?

It doesn’t name the hotel in question and I think that’s fair enough as to do so could incite protests outside the establishment.

But I do.

And it is bollocks!

Profligate spending??

I will tell you this

This is a Home Office decision and can change based on need. Initial information provided indicates that the intention is for this hotel to be used for families with children and single adult females.

Asylum seekers are not able to claim welfare benefits.

woodenspoon Tue 29-Jul-25 15:21:05

It’s not out and out nonsense. It’s front page of the Telegraph.
The government may be obliged to house these individuals but not in 4* luxury hotels with 4 poster beds.
As a West Sussex taxpayer I am appalled and outraged by it.

Oreo Tue 29-Jul-25 15:20:09

But is the report in The Telegraph ā€˜out and out nonsense’ that’s the thing.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 15:17:33

Allsorts

We shouldn't be housing them in hotels. Its about time the homeless we have is dealt with. Trump is right on this one.

Trump should butt out.

It is government policy, it was the previous governments policy.

Wherever we house asylum seekers the government has a legal obligation to care.

The absolute bollocks put out by the right wing simply incites hatred and violence,

People have been put into prison for less.

By all means argue over migration, but don’t use out and out nonsense to prove your point .

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 15:16:01

I hear what you’re saying WwMk2 about the stance West Sussex council are stating.

But why is the hotel (and videos) in the Telegraph article assumed to be lies?

It doesn’t name the hotel in question and I think that’s fair enough as to do so could incite protests outside the establishment.

woodenspoon Tue 29-Jul-25 15:14:39

Whitewavemark2

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’m not ā€˜revelling’ I’m furious to read about the profligate spending that’s going on!

Are you new StripeyCat? You remind me of someone, your style of posting?

But you see it is lies. Spreading this sort of hate is exactly what causes violence and division.

Please desist.

She’s not spreading hate. It’s the top article online on the Daily Telegraph. Now if YOU think the Telegraph are spreading hate, as you’ve just accused another poster of, then I strongly suggest you write to the Telegraph telling them on your concerns.

Do you honestly think a respected newspaper such as this would print such an inflammatory article if untrue? Stop burying your head in the sand.

Allsorts Tue 29-Jul-25 15:10:00

We shouldn't be housing them in hotels. Its about time the homeless we have is dealt with. Trump is right on this one.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 15:09:15

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’m not ā€˜revelling’ I’m furious to read about the profligate spending that’s going on!

Are you new StripeyCat? You remind me of someone, your style of posting?

DD tells me I'm psychic!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 15:06:56

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’m not ā€˜revelling’ I’m furious to read about the profligate spending that’s going on!

Are you new StripeyCat? You remind me of someone, your style of posting?

But you see it is lies. Spreading this sort of hate is exactly what causes violence and division.

Please desist.

escaped Tue 29-Jul-25 15:06:45

Are YOU trying to get ME banned again?
I sincerely hope not, this place is getting very sinister with all the reporting.
FriedGreenTomatoes does NOT seek to make scenes, any more than I or others do, let's' be clear.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 15:06:26

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 15:04:04

I have reported myself to GNHQ.
I always feel that I’m skating on thin ice lately on N&P and yet I only say what others are saying.
And no, I’m not being paranoid. I want them to take a look.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 15:04:02

I said it was unkind and uncalled for but I think Maybee knows that herself.


Europe has a problem.
The countries some genuine asylum seekers flee from have problems.
Other illegal immigrants are here from safe countries and are criminals that we do not need here.

It's no good hiding our heads in the sand over these issues.

There seems to be no-one who can get a grip on it all.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 29-Jul-25 15:03:30

West Sussex County Council

People seeking asylum in the UK can apply for asylum support if they are destitute. The Home Office has a statutory obligation to provide support including accommodation to destitute asylum seekers whilst their claims are being considered.

Due to the rise in the numbers of people seeking asylum in the UK and the volume of applications to be processed, hotels, alongside other types of accommodation, are being used across the country as additional contingency accommodation.

Where people have submitted a claim for asylum to the Home Office, they are recognised as asylum seekers and are waiting for their asylum application to be assessed.

Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, and to remain there until the authorities have assessed their claim. This is a legal process.

An asylum seeker is someone who has left their country, often suddenly, because they are faced with persecution, war or violence and cannot get protection there. Many have fled war-torn countries, were trafficked to the UK or faced persecution and violence. They have temporary accommodation until their asylum request has been processed.

The Home Office are responsible for processing claims for asylum and aim to process those applications within six months.

Where asylum is granted, people are recognised as refugees under the 1951 Refugee Convention and are allowed to remain in the UK for five years. At the end of five years, subject to the outcome of any review and to the policies in place at the time, people can seek indefinite leave to remain.

If you are concerned about comments that you consider are a hate incident or crime, then please report them.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 14:57:48

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Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 14:57:29

I thought we could discuss this without personal attacks.

However, Maybee, if you feel you should report your remark to FriedGreenTomatoes2, do so if you feel you should. It's up to you, but I doubt that you'd be banned for one unkind, uncalled for remark.

As these things are being reported in mainstream media, perhaps we should be made aware? I don't read the Telegraph, it's behind a paywall but they'd be sued if it was untrue, wouldn't they?

I think there's unrest in the country already.
We have a problem, Europe has a problem.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 14:54:13

I’ve no interest in you being banned MayBee.

LizzieDrip Tue 29-Jul-25 14:53:51

StripeyGran

*The lap of luxury for some irregular migrants*

I fear there will be more violence thanks to articles like this.

Why do you revel in posting these things? I can't comprehend it.

If you are new StripeyGran (not that it matters) you are welcome.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 14:51:21

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBf-kz4l4jI

Crikey! 😳

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 14:49:02

My sister tells me this was featured on Talk tv yesterday. There is a documentary to go with on Youtube.

Allira Tue 29-Jul-25 14:48:04

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MayBee70 Tue 29-Jul-25 14:46:46

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 29-Jul-25 14:45:06

Meanwhile, many children in the UK have to rely on breakfast clubs and other schemes (often funded through grants or donations from companies and charities) particularly during school holidays, to guarantee one decent meal a day.

This definitely doesn’t sit well with me.

escaped Tue 29-Jul-25 14:40:22

If the hotel referred to is the one in Tintagel it may have four poster beds but it was never actually used to house migrants so this comment is misleading.
Since when was Tintagel in West Sussex Maybee70?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 29-Jul-25 14:38:45

MayBee70

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Why would it not be true?? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
Makes for uncomfortable reading. Some folk perhaps want to be in denial about what’s going on?

Can you please confirm that they are definitely being housed in hotels with four poster beds?

As FGT2’s source is The Telegraph a quick Google should be sufficient…