I am feeling so bloody irritable!

That's sort of true, Oreo, but I fear that the advent of the internet will mean that people will gradually interact much less with each other, and this will have a really devastating impact on children in particular. They will learn word meanings, but will they experience emotion, politeness, obedience affection, courtesy, verbal communication, consequences of the way they behave.... etc etc etc Already we're having a spate of adolescents using knives, for example.
Sorry to be negative, but I really empathise with all the posts.

Turn off the tv, listen less to the news and read books, listen to music and get out in nature.

We walk every morning for half an hour in the countryside and observe the seasons rolling round and nothing much changes. When we are all long gone, the world will keep turning just the same, we are only a little part of it.

I think we all get depressed because we hear and see so much in the media and there is nothing we can do to help or change things which makes us feel worse. Don’t engage for your own mental health! Just look out for your own little circle of friends and family, beyond that it is out our control.

It's easy, don't watch any news, I sometimes accidentally hear it on the radio, I don't do social media and only watch things on TV that bring me joy, you can't change anything anyway so what the point. Only feed yourself with good things.

During covid our local news channel used to show local veauty spots accompanied by restful music, just as a short clip everyday. Wouldn't it be lovely if all news channels could show just one short positive story every day, in amongst all the doom and gloom

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DhkkjzmuEBbo&ved=2ahUKEwiQ8PCQzN-OAxWjW0EAHfaBM28QwqsBegQIDhAF&usg=AOvVaw3N6nz2np88AmvWAVrwPHTj

T-shirts are available with many different slogans/sayings on them. You might like one of my favourites, which is:
I never dreamed that one day I'd be a grumpy old man, but here I am killing it!

Brilliant poem Allira, especially the last line.

Monty Python, Maremia, 😁 from The Meaning of Life! Written by Eric Idle and John du Prez.

You are all welcome to come and dig our potatoes for us on our allotment which would cheer you up !
I now have the mantra”Let Them” as I try to lead my best life with my family, friends and community
Singing helps as well 🎶

Brilliant poem Allira, especially the last line.

Hoping to help by quoting the ancient Persian saying
'This too shall pass'
Just wish it wouldn't take so flippin' long.
Also, if we know about issues/dangers we can chose what we wish to do about it.
Just remember to take time out to re-charge and get better.
Another quote, paraphrased from airline crew, 'See to yourself first'.

Mamie

Whitewavemark2

Well, I suppose we could ask the body responsible for flood management in the U.K. to stop building defences, or maintain existing ones as unnecessary😄.

And tell those suffering from recent catastrophic flooding in Germany. Spain, Italy, USA countries in Africa, Australia etc, that it is nothing new and certainly not getting any worse.

Global warming is a fact, it is happening at an ever increasing rate.

France too WWM3. Not just torrential rain and terrible floods, but hailstorms wiping out entire crops, heatwaves early and late and endless, bitter winds from the east. Gardening has become very challenging.
We have lived in Normandy for 20 years and you could only fail to notice the changes in climate with excessive wishful thinking.
I simply don't understand people who are not concerned for their children and grandchildren.

And in Switzerland, landslides all over the Alps, valley after valley, as the permafrost that is holding the moutains together is melting - and tons of rain combining with disastrous effects. Many cities are also currently at max flood risk as rain continues.

I think they mention it but are probably too busy working to be involved in discussions like this escaped.

Your comments about the costs of having children is part of why we now have an aging population. I see Labour is having a Pensions Review, looking at the fact that many of the young are not saving enough, and that the expensive pensions of the past, paid in great part by employers, are not available to the young.

If they need to pay more for pensions, pay extortionate proportions of income for child care from a lower salary, while being less able to buy a home as they are snapped up by older buyers as assets, it's no wonder they are fed up. The problem is also that the post-war generations had often not been used to holidays abroad, etc., so that would feel like an improvement, not being able to give your children more than you had feels like a loss.

It is worth remembering that these changes are not just happening here though. Many if not most of the richer countries are in the same situation.

Whitewavemark2

Well, I suppose we could ask the body responsible for flood management in the U.K. to stop building defences, or maintain existing ones as unnecessary😄.

And tell those suffering from recent catastrophic flooding in Germany. Spain, Italy, USA countries in Africa, Australia etc, that it is nothing new and certainly not getting any worse.

Global warming is a fact, it is happening at an ever increasing rate.

France too WWM3. Not just torrential rain and terrible floods, but hailstorms wiping out entire crops, heatwaves early and late and endless, bitter winds from the east. Gardening has become very challenging.
We have lived in Normandy for 20 years and you could only fail to notice the changes in climate with excessive wishful thinking.
I simply don't understand people who are not concerned for their children and grandchildren.

I think it's sad if young people are feeling negative too.
Interesting article there PoliticsNerd, and I would add the colossal costs of having little ones at nursery too. DS has two under 3s, and although he and his wife earn well, they have decided not to go on holiday this year at a cost of £5,000, (his wife can only go in school holidays). I see how child care is crippling their finances, so of course the young will feel unhappy without any treats, and holidays are one thing that have always made working people happy.
At least DS and DDiL can look on the bright side because we all live on the Devon coast, and like Taichinan says, there's so much beauty in nature to surround us.

fancythat

Whitewavemark2

Well, I suppose we could ask the body responsible for flood management in the U.K. to stop building defences, or maintain existing ones as unnecessary😄.

And tell those suffering from recent catastrophic flooding in Germany. Spain, Italy, USA countries in Africa, Australia etc, that it is nothing new and certainly not getting any worse.

Global warming is a fact, it is happening at an ever increasing rate.

How rude.

Perhaps you didnt realise so many people tried to be helpful to you on this thread?
You threw some of it back in some of their faces.
Not even sure you have even said thanks to anyone.
Oh well.
Lesson learnt.

1st paragraph - you think I would think that? Really?

2nd paragraph - not much better.

3rd paragraph - disputable.
As I wrote above.

Have you looked at the title😄.

Allsorts

I've never known so many people fed up with things. Had few jobs last week, two different tradespeople, early 30's, both said they were fed up the way things were going, even said this Country is finished. There is a general unrest now. I bought two children up on my own but never had the despair the young have now.No one listens. you are not alone with your feelings, quite the reverse.

This is why the young are feeling negative.

Today's young adults are the first generation since at least World War Two not to start their working lives with higher incomes than those born before them. Despite having about the same income, those born in the early 1980s are much less wealthy than those born in the 1970s were at the same age.

The vast majority of young adults working in the private sector will never have pensions as generous as those enjoyed by their older colleagues.

It looks like we're heading for a future where how much wealth your parents have matters more than it used to.

From an IFS article prepared for the BBC. ifs.org.uk/articles/seven-reasons-it-helps-have-rich-parents

Taichinan

I have come to the stage in life, at very nearly 84, where I have decided that it's time to just concentrate on and be grateful for my family members and the beauty of nature around me. During my life I've done what I could when I could, by way of charitable donations, and just had to hope that what small amounts I could afford found their way to their intended destination. Now I diligently re-cycle to save the planet and try not to needlessly deplete its resources, fully aware that any miniscule contribution I make is far out balanced by the pollution created by the world's warmongers. So I love my family and appreciate the beauty around me. To me, that's really all that matters and all that I can do.

That is a lovely post ❤️

I've never known so many people fed up with things. Had few jobs last week, two different tradespeople, early 30's, both said they were fed up the way things were going, even said this Country is finished. There is a general unrest now. I bought two children up on my own but never had the despair the young have now.No one listens. you are not alone with your feelings, quite the reverse.

Interesting that so many of us feel this way. I think part of the problem is frustration at not being able to do much about what is happening. We can see the reasons why there is so much negativity but there is not a lot we can do. The number of people committing suicide surely reflects how common this depression is.

I remember when I was in the thick of it with all the children at home and my mil kept on about the state of the world and how bad everything was. It would have been the 1980s. I wondered what was the matter with her, thinking there was enough to worry about near at home. There were some really bad fires, floods and natural events then, too. In the 1930s there were enormous floods near where we live now and the whole hillside tumbled down taking lives with it.

Taichinan

I have come to the stage in life, at very nearly 84, where I have decided that it's time to just concentrate on and be grateful for my family members and the beauty of nature around me. During my life I've done what I could when I could, by way of charitable donations, and just had to hope that what small amounts I could afford found their way to their intended destination. Now I diligently re-cycle to save the planet and try not to needlessly deplete its resources, fully aware that any miniscule contribution I make is far out balanced by the pollution created by the world's warmongers. So I love my family and appreciate the beauty around me. To me, that's really all that matters and all that I can do.

...that's lovely...

By the way Allira, I loved your quoted song/poem. It does help sometimes to get things into perspective!!

I have come to the stage in life, at very nearly 84, where I have decided that it's time to just concentrate on and be grateful for my family members and the beauty of nature around me. During my life I've done what I could when I could, by way of charitable donations, and just had to hope that what small amounts I could afford found their way to their intended destination. Now I diligently re-cycle to save the planet and try not to needlessly deplete its resources, fully aware that any miniscule contribution I make is far out balanced by the pollution created by the world's warmongers. So I love my family and appreciate the beauty around me. To me, that's really all that matters and all that I can do.

I have every sympathy for what you’re saying fancythat but the OP did say she was ‘bloody irritable’ so we were warned😁

Maybe I shouldnt think so deep.
I will just stay away.
I will report my own post.

Whitewavemark2

Well, I suppose we could ask the body responsible for flood management in the U.K. to stop building defences, or maintain existing ones as unnecessary😄.

And tell those suffering from recent catastrophic flooding in Germany. Spain, Italy, USA countries in Africa, Australia etc, that it is nothing new and certainly not getting any worse.

Global warming is a fact, it is happening at an ever increasing rate.

How rude.

Perhaps you didnt realise so many people tried to be helpful to you on this thread?
You threw some of it back in some of their faces.
Not even sure you have even said thanks to anyone.
Oh well.
Lesson learnt.

1st paragraph - you think I would think that? Really?

2nd paragraph - not much better.

3rd paragraph - disputable.
As I wrote above.