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Sarnia Thu 31-Jul-25 16:48:09

Concerning figures out today show that the most popular boy's name in the UK by some margin in 2024 was Mohammed. That underlines the concerns of so many people, surely.

Doodledog Fri 01-Aug-25 10:47:05

growstuff

Nell82

Oreo

An interesting question to Christians, in Spain and South America Jesus is a favoured name for a baby boy, pronounced Hayzus I think.
Why isn’t it a favoured name in other Christian countries?

DH was terrified as he was being anaesthetised for a major heart operation. He woke up to a man's voice saying "Hello. I'm Jesus. Would you like a cup of tea?"

I guess it's better than "My name's Lucifer. Are you warm enough?"

Wasn't there something in the news a couple of years ago about a couple wanting to call their son Lucifer after a TV series of that name?

AI tells me that I remember correctly. They claim that they wanted the name as it means 'bringer of light', but who knows. There is a line in 'Pack Up Your Troubles' where it is used in that context - 'while there's a lucifer to light your fag/smile boys, that's the style', but I've never heard it used like that otherwise (and I only made the connection when I googled this case). It does seem more likely that it was the TV show that initiated the choice. I don't know if they went through with it, as the fuller story is behind a paywall unless I sign up to notifications from the Northern Echo, which I don't want grin.

We don't have banned names here, but is there a case to be made for making some choices off limits? Interestingly, the baby's middle name is/was going to be Gary, which is also 'extinct', I believe.

PS nobody called their son Keir last year - the name has dropped out of the charts, too (not that it was ever a popular name - there were 4 baby Keirs the year before).

pably15 Fri 01-Aug-25 11:01:05

Crosstichfan
nor can I ...

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 11:02:13

The lovely family on The Yorkshire Vet who called their twins Ronnie and Reggie .....

TerriBull Fri 01-Aug-25 11:26:07

Allira

Casdon

M0nica

Mohamed is one of 20 names on the 2 lists. I thought the discussion was about. ALL of them, not just one.

I posted an entry near to the start talking about all the girls names, which I notice that no one picked up on, even though I set it up to be provocative.

This thread does reveal a latent racism among many GN members, which is not the same as saying people are racist, because I doubt if many are.

I found a list of extinct girls names, I bet the names of many Gransnetters are on here. Fashions change so rapidly, and there’s a trend at the moment for parents to use unusual or made up names, which means no one British names is as prevalent as it used to be amongst newborns.

The following names have been extinct since 1994;

1. Bertha
2. Beverley
3. Carol
4. Carole
5. Doreen
6. Gail
7. Gertrude
8. Gillian
9. Glenys
10. Glynis
11. Hilary
12. Jill
13. Kay
14. Kerry
15. Lesley
16. Lindsay
17. Lyndsey
18. Lynne
19. Lynsey
20. Mandy
21. Maureen
22. Muriel
23. Phyllis

Is Gertrude ever going to come back (DH's Grandma's name!)
We did know a Trudy in the wider family, who would be about the same age as my DC.

We also knew a Lindsay (not The Speaker).

Yay! my name is not on the extinct list, I gather from a friend there has been a resurgence of it since a certain film featuring a diminutive was a box office smash. All I can say you wouldn't catch me allowing anyone to address me with that positively nauseating abbreviated version especially as it has strong associations with the colour pink. I'm not pink, I'm a purple sort of a person. shock

Parsley3 Fri 01-Aug-25 11:26:16

My son's fine Scottish name has fallen out of favour and no-one choses it now. Isn't there a female version of Noah without the final letter? Noa. That's a lovely name too.

Grandma70s Fri 01-Aug-25 11:52:40

My name isn’t on the extinct list, but I have friends with several of the other names. Gillian, Hilary, Lesley, Muriel and Phyllis.

Grandma70s Fri 01-Aug-25 11:56:47

Noah to me is an old man in an ark, and I can’t see the name any other way. My daughter-in-law rather favoured it for my grandson, now 16. Thank goodness she changed her mind.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 01-Aug-25 12:13:54

I know a male Hilary.

Grammaretto Fri 01-Aug-25 14:39:07

Plenty of Scottish names have never gone "out" probably were never IN
Cameron, Calum, Isla, Iona etc

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 15:07:25

There are a lot of little (and teenage) Islas around!

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 15:08:52

Grandma70s

Noah to me is an old man in an ark, and I can’t see the name any other way. My daughter-in-law rather favoured it for my grandson, now 16. Thank goodness she changed her mind.

I know a few Noahs, under age 10.

Is it a premonition?

M0nica Fri 01-Aug-25 15:39:04

Chocolatelovinggran

I know a male Hilary.

Hilary was, originally a male name.

There are two 'St Hilary's. Both ofthem bisshops in the 4 and 5th centuries.

Dee1012 Fri 01-Aug-25 16:00:57

Allira

The lovely family on The Yorkshire Vet who called their twins Ronnie and Reggie .....

A colleague has two dogs called Ronnie and Reggie, both tiny little things! smile

Mollygo Fri 01-Aug-25 16:09:18

Noah, Jonah, Erik, Arthur all recent KS1 pupils. The child who introduced himself as Hammy turned out to be Mohammed.
There is a Noa version of Noah, but the only person I have heard of with that name is a Dutch trans darts player.

winterwhite Fri 01-Aug-25 16:20:04

What were the lists compiled from? And why doesn’t a Muslim girl’s name figure? That tends to support the theory that most Muslim boys have Mohammed as first given name.

Casdon Fri 01-Aug-25 16:26:50

They come from the Office of National Statistics from birth records winterwhite. There isn’t a Muslim girl’s name in the top 20 because Muslims call their daughters different names, just as other families do. Muslims make up a small percentage of the UK population, so there are not enough girls with one name to make the top 20 list.

watermeadow Fri 01-Aug-25 16:34:49

I like medical series on TV. In every hospital, every operating theatre, the vast majority of doctors and consultants and surgeons were born or their parents were born outside the UK.

Georgesgran Fri 01-Aug-25 16:39:10

I’m on the extinction list!!

Georgesgran Fri 01-Aug-25 16:45:42

DD1 is the female form of Lucifer - we knew it meant bringer of Light, or born at daybreak. . Even now, at 46 when she’s in a ‘mood’ she’s referred to as Lucifer!

I’d have loved DGS2 to be a Noah, but they wanted to totally avoid any biblical names.

winterwhite Fri 01-Aug-25 17:08:49

Thanks Casdon, so yes Mohammad scores because used for nostalgia Muslim boys.

MOnica I did read your post but thought Ivy as crunchy as Olivia, as is Violet so the flower names don’t really stack up. But you may have a point re women with flakey names rarely getting top jobs. What would be the flakey names for men

Steelygran Fri 01-Aug-25 17:09:29

We live in a diverse country and many of us regard this as a positive thing. Lists of popular names for babies reflect this diversity don't they? There are surely many ways of practising a religion, so generalisations about Muslim people and their religion, particularly if they sound disrespectful and negative, aren't acceptable in my opinion.

kircubbin2000 Fri 01-Aug-25 17:36:22

When my latest grandson was born we thought his name would suit an elderly northern funeral director. Daughter was not amused.

Bukkie Fri 01-Aug-25 17:59:27

Rachel Riley's second daughter is called Noa.

welbeck Fri 01-Aug-25 18:12:21

kircubbin2000

When my latest grandson was born we thought his name would suit an elderly northern funeral director. Daughter was not amused.

Ebenezer ?

vegansrock Fri 01-Aug-25 18:22:46

I know a little Stanley, Wilfred, and Albert.