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Mollygo Sun 10-Aug-25 15:13:50

I had an excited phone call from my great-nephew who has just got a job building wind turbines in the UK and abroad.
He explained his job enthusiastically and at great length. How he is doing his bit for the environment and the money’s great.
I am delighted for him -new job, new baby and new mortgage.

Praising him to my brother in law, I got this response,

Wind turbines only have a life span of about 20 years. Then they’ll just be landfill.
He went on to say that Turbine blades are set to account for more than 40 million tonnes of waste by 2050.
He’s right, but I felt a bit squashed.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Aug-25 15:55:11

Well, 30 years ago my home village was the first place in the U.K. to install a wind farm.

They were replaced a while back with bigger more efficient ones, not because the old ones were not working.

But in 30 years the wind farm has saved 840000 tonnes of carbon from entering the atmosphere and powers 60000 homes 😊

So tell your great nephew to be proud of his contribution to saving the world

butterandjam Sun 10-Aug-25 16:05:56

Coal and nuclear power generation produces far more waste.

LizzieDrip Sun 10-Aug-25 16:09:47

Mollygo congratulations to your great nephew! You should be proud of him, and he should be rightly proud of himself.

Not to be disrespectful to your brother in law but none of us know what the world will be like in 20 years time or by 2050. I’m afraid your brother in law is the past, not the future.

You say ‘he’s right’ but we don’t know that he is. Creativity and innovation of youth will lead the world forward - it should never be squashed.

Thank goodness we have enthusiastic, positive young men like your great nephew, who want to ensure the world is habitable for future generations such as his new baby.

Celebrate his success and leave your BIL to his dinosaur views.

Casdon Sun 10-Aug-25 16:12:11

It’s good to hear that wind turbines are being built in the UK. It’s part of the green infrastructure we must build for future generations, so well done to your great nephew, he is helping to protect his baby’s future too.

Ziplok Sun 10-Aug-25 16:18:11

I’m sure as time goes on there will be ways found to recycle the turbine blades rather than they become landfill. Perhaps this is well on the way?
Congratulations to your G nephew.

Granatlast007 Sun 10-Aug-25 16:31:11

There's always someone who wants to be a dark cloud of gloom and pessimism, and these days they always have the so called data to back it up.
Tell your brother in law to subscribe to Positive News!

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 10-Aug-25 16:32:00

My DIL is an engineer with an international company. They are supporting the structure of wind turbines across the world, and are clear that renewables are the best plan for the future needs.
Tell your nephew to be proud 🦚.

Sarnia Sun 10-Aug-25 16:37:14

Mr Trump isn't a fan of windmills, as he calls them. I would be interested to see how successful wave energy could be. We are surrounded by sea. Seems a shame not to use it.

argymargy Sun 10-Aug-25 16:39:59

He’s right, but I felt a bit squashed.

How do you know "he's right"? Where's the evidence for that? And what about all the waste and landfill from other sources of energy? Why is it that people who provide statistics about how awful green energy is never account for the byproducts of fossil fuels?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Aug-25 16:44:17

Ask him if his car goes to landfill 😊

Not that I want to cause an argument😮

Mollygo Sun 10-Aug-25 16:46:20

We did indeed congratulate our G-Nephew. Interestingly where we are in France, there is a big push on increasing the number of wind farms, whereas the UK seems to be increasing offshore-we can see one from our bedroom at home. But then, France has more land than we do.

petra Sun 10-Aug-25 17:05:48

I would imagine we might have come on a pace Re recycling in 30 years time so no need for it to go to landfill.

David49 Sun 10-Aug-25 17:12:28

There are naysayers wherever you turn, the facts are Solar repays its carbon input in 2 yrs, nuclear and wind in 7 months.

Renewable is the future, in the long term hydrogen but not yet

butterandjam Sun 10-Aug-25 18:00:51

Sarnia

Mr Trump isn't a fan of windmills, as he calls them. I would be interested to see how successful wave energy could be. We are surrounded by sea. Seems a shame not to use it.

already being researched in Scotland

www.emec.org.uk/projects/ocean-energy-projects/

Norah Sun 10-Aug-25 19:46:15

Trump isn't a fan of windmills, as he calls them.

Perhaps it's time we build more...

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 10-Aug-25 22:40:25

Absolutely, Norah !

David49 Mon 11-Aug-25 07:29:13

Norah

^Trump isn't a fan of windmills, as he calls them.^

Perhaps it's time we build more...

That’s the plan, renewable is the future, it’s just a shame we have to import most of the technology.

25Avalon Mon 11-Aug-25 11:35:21

Actually in a way it’s back to the past when we harnessed and used wind and water for free sustainable energy. It’s now modern tech but there are a few concerns such as building pylons to transfer the power, and the destruction of birds which fly into them. Most concerning is the green tariffs which skew the whole picture. When wind turbines are turned off because there is enough power in the system the energy company receives compensation and can then sell the nonexistent electricity on. There is corruption everywhere sadly.
I did read the government are considering allowing householders to have 30ft turbines in their back gardens. We looked at having a turbine a few years back but it wouldn’t work on our property.

BlueBelle Mon 11-Aug-25 12:05:20

Mollygo My grandson has worked on the windfarms since he was 17 and worked in various other countries. It’s actually quite a cut throat business just like the oil and gas industry and blooming hard, cold, heavy work. They deserve what they get
Just be glad he’s got a job

David49 Mon 11-Aug-25 13:02:54

Small wind turbines, even if 10m tall are very inefficient unless in ideal conditions, it’s the large turbines that are slow speed that generate worthwhile power, especially offshore with higher wind speed

OldFrill Mon 11-Aug-25 13:40:21

25Avalon

Actually in a way it’s back to the past when we harnessed and used wind and water for free sustainable energy. It’s now modern tech but there are a few concerns such as building pylons to transfer the power, and the destruction of birds which fly into them. Most concerning is the green tariffs which skew the whole picture. When wind turbines are turned off because there is enough power in the system the energy company receives compensation and can then sell the nonexistent electricity on. There is corruption everywhere sadly.
I did read the government are considering allowing householders to have 30ft turbines in their back gardens. We looked at having a turbine a few years back but it wouldn’t work on our property.

It's 30 METRES not 30 feet that Miliband is keen the government supports. Agree with everything else you've written There's also of growth of battery storage facilities marring the landscape. The lack and therefore cost of vital cable (and more importantly where/how the metals are sourced and the noxious fumes/environmental damage caused in the manufacture). It remains on wide scale development such as is happening in Scotland there ain't much clean about green and we're being sold an expensive nightmare not a dream.

Babylon Mon 11-Aug-25 16:29:05

There's a very interesting app called Inconvenient Facts. Everything has links to sources. I do fear that man is getting above himself thinking he can 'save the planet'. Science is never settled; I learned that when training to be a teacher.
CO2 is the gas of life and the vast majority comes from ocean release.
It's also worrying that there was an article on the think tank website of Chatham House stating that 50% of countries have admitted to some form of geo engineering. I think that man doth tinker too much. It's not going to end well. We have had warming periods throughout the ages without apocalyptic endings.

counterpoint Mon 11-Aug-25 16:57:01

The big wind turbine makers are already committed to recycling blades. And getting into action orsted.co.uk/insights/from-the-front-line-of-climate-action/meeting-the-global-challenge-of-blade-recycling-with-a-scalable-solution

@Babylon Natural CO2 emissions are roughly in balance. It’s fossil fuel burning that is increasing the CO2 in the atmosphere. You’re just spouting standard anti-climate change misinformation.

David49 Mon 11-Aug-25 17:07:42

Babylon

There's a very interesting app called Inconvenient Facts. Everything has links to sources. I do fear that man is getting above himself thinking he can 'save the planet'. Science is never settled; I learned that when training to be a teacher.
CO2 is the gas of life and the vast majority comes from ocean release.
It's also worrying that there was an article on the think tank website of Chatham House stating that 50% of countries have admitted to some form of geo engineering. I think that man doth tinker too much. It's not going to end well. We have had warming periods throughout the ages without apocalyptic endings.

I dont rule out any opinion, however the majority opinion is man made Climate Change, so I will go with the flow for now and take advantage of any promotion schemes offered. We are paying a lot out in green taxes hope I can get some back.