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Gloriana Mon 18-Aug-25 07:48:59

There are presently around 10,000 new houses being built within a ten mile radius of my house and I know these sort of numbers aren't unusual for many areas. Do any gransnetters know anyone who is buying one of the new houses? Atm building on the nearest new estate has been stopped as houses are not selling, yet still thousands more are planned. Who is buying them?
I know we need many more affordable homes, and we desperately need more social housing but these are private homes that are being built - and not what I would call affordable! It is my understanding that young people wanting to get on to the housing ladder and asylum seekers are the main categories of people needing homes but these huge private estates are not the answer for either of them. So who will buy??

windmill1 Mon 18-Aug-25 10:20:46

It's now reaching the point that once quite separate village communities have effectively been joined together due to large developments filling in the 'breathing' space between them.

In the past it would take a few hundred years for hamlets to become villages, then townships then fully blown towns. They evolved gradually. Now, it seems to be happening in just a very few short decades. And the current crop of new builds seem to be of substandard quality.

Some developers are sharks who, just about legally, take the money and run.

Sarnia Mon 18-Aug-25 10:21:36

Calendargirl

I live in a small market town.

Many of the shops down the main street have flats above them, a large proportion of them look fairly derelict.

If ‘someone’ did them up and rented them out to singles, professional couples, even families with children ( they have big rooms), it would free up some homes and make the town centre look so much better.

Too expensive, I assume.

Liverpool City Council had rows of back to back. two-up, two-down terraced houses, all derelict. They sold them for £1 each to people (not developers etc) who needed a home. They were able to get a loan from the council to improve the houses and the difference in them was remarkable.
The Council shifted these houses, people had somewhere to live and as they had worked hard to do them up they looked after them and crime dropped.

TerriBull Mon 18-Aug-25 10:34:06

We live in a village on the edge of a sizeable market town, there are umpteen new developments and it does seem when these newer properties come on the market to be re sold, maybe a couple of years after being built they don't necessarily retain their price, they're too expensive in the first place and I can't help thinking, given they don't sell very quickly there's an over supply. The market, as others have pointed out has stalled somewhat. My husband has recently found out the golf club where he's a member, have had plans approved for yet another housing development, well he'll find an alternative club no doubt. The point is that previously the same plans had been submitted and rejected on the basis of potential problems with the water supply and sewage to service these new builds, that won't have changed but its been pushed through now under this government's housing proposals. The area will soon be saturated with unaffordable new builds lacking the necessary infrastructure.

Kate1949 Mon 18-Aug-25 10:36:05

There are almost 1000 lovely apartments left empty here in Birmingham. They were built for the Commonwealth Games but not finished in time. So there they sit due to some dispute or other.

Allira Mon 18-Aug-25 11:26:35

Sarnia

Calendargirl

I live in a small market town.

Many of the shops down the main street have flats above them, a large proportion of them look fairly derelict.

If ‘someone’ did them up and rented them out to singles, professional couples, even families with children ( they have big rooms), it would free up some homes and make the town centre look so much better.

Too expensive, I assume.

Liverpool City Council had rows of back to back. two-up, two-down terraced houses, all derelict. They sold them for £1 each to people (not developers etc) who needed a home. They were able to get a loan from the council to improve the houses and the difference in them was remarkable.
The Council shifted these houses, people had somewhere to live and as they had worked hard to do them up they looked after them and crime dropped.

They did that in Stoke-on-Trent too, years ago. An excellent idea.

Every new estate has to include some social and affordable housing, I think.

The Council wants to build on flood plains near here 🤨

The problem with new developments is that they tend to be on the edges of small towns or villages but separate from them and there seems to be little integration.

Infill and brownfield sites within the parameters of existing towns would seem to be better then using greenfield or farm land.

Allira Mon 18-Aug-25 11:32:04

So far, I’ve seen no planning applications for affordable or social housing, which is what is needed in the country.

As I mentioned, it is usually mandatory for a certain amount of social housing to be included in plans for new developments. The other thing is that, if developers are unable to sell some of the less expensive housing in a new development, the Council or Housing Association will sometimes purchase it.

CariadAgain Mon 18-Aug-25 11:56:58

I believe Black Rock (HUGE!) investment company are looking to buy a lot of homes - to rent them out for a profit for themselves.

Add in - yep...some existing houses are being taken out of the private rented sector - by virtue of tenants being thrown out, the house then turned into an HMO and in comes several illegals - ie instead of the tenants. Those chucked-out tenants still need homes - after having their existing ones grabbed off them...

Doodledog Mon 18-Aug-25 12:08:56

I live in a market town that had about 11,000 residents in 1990. Now the population is 15000, which is a huge increase in a small area. The infrastructure, typically, has not kept pace with the number of residents, and a mixture of the growing population and the system that allows children from other towns to use the schools (mostly rated 'Excellent') means that local children don't always get places, causing friction between 'incomers' and locals.

The trend towards working from home has meant that people from well outside the area have moved here because it is a lovely part of the country and the houses are cheaper than in the SE. They are still expensive for locals, however, so a lot of the new builds are bought by people with profits from smaller houses in more expensive areas, which can also cause tensions.

Modern houses are not my thing - I'd rather have good sized rooms and walls separating spaces than open-plan living areas and tiny bedrooms each with its own bathroom - but most house buyers must want that, and in any case there aren't enough older homes to go round. People seem to prefer detached houses crammed together in warrens than connected houses in wide streets with surrounding space and access to facilities.

As with other areas, most of the new houses are 4-5 bed boxes, clumped together on estates on the outskirts of town with no amenities. This means that everyone living there has to bring cars into the centre, clogging car parks and polluting the air. There seems to be no thought to it. The town centre (where I live) has developed over hundreds of years, so there is nowhere to put estates, so instead they are on ex farmland, and on spaces where there used to be facilities such as hospitals which have been lost to centralised 'hubs'. The town has lost a lot of its character and sense of self, and if things carry on in this way we will find ourselves joined up with neighbouring towns in all directions. The estates have definitely changed the character of the town, as they do all over the UK.

It is a shame in many ways, but all houses were new once, and people have to live somewhere. Demographic shifts and other shifts in social behaviour, such as divorce, young people marrying/settling down later and becoming less likely to live with parents until they do so mean that there are more households than there used to be, and more houses are needed as a result. Nobody wants them in their backyard, but where are they supposed to go?

David49 Mon 18-Aug-25 12:33:40

New homes are selling, developers wouldn’t build them otherwise, here they seem to build in stages, build one batch sell them before moving on to the next.

The biggest obstruction to more housing in this area is planning conditions and nimby locals objecting to everything. I did go to a ward meeting discussing the local plan recently, they opposed everything within 2 miles, laughable.

Doodledog Mon 18-Aug-25 12:40:31

CariadAgain

I believe Black Rock (HUGE!) investment company are looking to buy a lot of homes - to rent them out for a profit for themselves.

Add in - yep...some existing houses are being taken out of the private rented sector - by virtue of tenants being thrown out, the house then turned into an HMO and in comes several illegals - ie instead of the tenants. Those chucked-out tenants still need homes - after having their existing ones grabbed off them...

Can you explain how 'illegals' get housed, please? If they are 'illegal' they will be deported if they become known to the authorities, and will be unable to accrue points in order to get to the top of the queue for housing.

Also, how can tenants have their homes 'grabbed'? There are laws to prevent this, and the new government is tightening them to prevent greedy landlords from evicting people without valid reason.

Iam64 Mon 18-Aug-25 12:48:52

Thanks Doodledog, I’ll be interested in the response

Jaxjacky Mon 18-Aug-25 12:53:06

Me too both.

fancythat Mon 18-Aug-25 13:07:44

Around here, there are new houses built that havent been sold yet.
And planning been approved for 92 or thereabouts, new houses.
Who is going to buy them when built?

David49 Mon 18-Aug-25 13:22:35

Our town has double in size in my lifespan, many work outside the town, town centre shops have close and moved to retail parks on the outskirts.

The town has already changed out of all recognition

growstuff Mon 18-Aug-25 13:35:25

CariadAgain

I believe Black Rock (HUGE!) investment company are looking to buy a lot of homes - to rent them out for a profit for themselves.

Add in - yep...some existing houses are being taken out of the private rented sector - by virtue of tenants being thrown out, the house then turned into an HMO and in comes several illegals - ie instead of the tenants. Those chucked-out tenants still need homes - after having their existing ones grabbed off them...

That post seems to have included a number of current conspiracy theories.

David49 Mon 18-Aug-25 13:37:47

growstuff

CariadAgain

I believe Black Rock (HUGE!) investment company are looking to buy a lot of homes - to rent them out for a profit for themselves.

Add in - yep...some existing houses are being taken out of the private rented sector - by virtue of tenants being thrown out, the house then turned into an HMO and in comes several illegals - ie instead of the tenants. Those chucked-out tenants still need homes - after having their existing ones grabbed off them...

That post seems to have included a number of current conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theories on GN never, plenty of bigoted fixed opinions

growstuff Mon 18-Aug-25 13:40:04

David49

Our town has double in size in my lifespan, many work outside the town, town centre shops have close and moved to retail parks on the outskirts.

The town has already changed out of all recognition

My town has probably doubled in size over the last 20 years or so. The opposite has happened to the town centre. Run-down/empty shops have been taken over by restaurants/coffee shops and there are a number of small independents. The town centre is usually buzzing. We also have two new supermarkets on the edge of town and retail parks just a few miles away.

Doodledog Mon 18-Aug-25 13:40:50

Call it what you like, David - the statements in that post are blatantly false, and designed to feed into the fallacy that we are being 'overrun' by so-called 'illegals'.

growstuff Mon 18-Aug-25 13:41:13

David49

growstuff

CariadAgain

I believe Black Rock (HUGE!) investment company are looking to buy a lot of homes - to rent them out for a profit for themselves.

Add in - yep...some existing houses are being taken out of the private rented sector - by virtue of tenants being thrown out, the house then turned into an HMO and in comes several illegals - ie instead of the tenants. Those chucked-out tenants still need homes - after having their existing ones grabbed off them...

That post seems to have included a number of current conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theories on GN never, plenty of bigoted fixed opinions

grin I would say there are both, the latter probably reinforced by the former.

growstuff Mon 18-Aug-25 13:42:56

Doodledog

Call it what you like, David - the statements in that post are blatantly false, and designed to feed into the fallacy that we are being 'overrun' by so-called 'illegals'.

There seems to be a belief that if certain words/phrases are repeated enough they become normalised and nobody bats an eye when they're said/written.

Doodledog Mon 18-Aug-25 13:44:33

My eyelids bat rather a lot on here these days grin.

Allira Mon 18-Aug-25 14:47:26

BlackRock has fingers in many pies, the retirement home sector, care homes, nursing homes, private healthcare.

That's not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact.

Jaxjacky Mon 18-Aug-25 14:50:57

You’re missing the point(s) Allira.
Tenants being ‘thrown out’ and ‘illegals moving in’.

Allira Mon 18-Aug-25 14:54:50

No, not missing the point at all.
That is because there is another point there - that BlackRock Investments is taking over, not just here but in other countries too.

If these companies take over where Local Authorities and Governments used to be in charge, who knows where that will lead?
Is no-one worried about that?

SueBdoo70 Mon 18-Aug-25 14:56:53

I’m surprised that gransnetters haven’t heard of Section 21. It was even a story line in Coronation Street recently ! A landlord doesn’t need to give a reason for giving a ‘ no fault ‘ eviction notice. Although the tenants must be given at least 2 months written notice. The latest government data shows that 11,400 households in England were removed from their homes by bailiffs between July 2024 and June 2025. The government guidance is that these Section 21 evictions will be abolished for new and existing tenancies at the same time, but they haven’t said, as yet, said when this will be. It probably is too long away as the homeless minister Rushanara Ali recently took out a Section 21 against her 4 tenants and has had to ‘ resign ‘ due to public outcry ( Guardian 7th August 2025 ) She re-advertised the property with a rent increase of nearly £700 a month ! But I don’t think even she could re-let the property to illegal asylum seekers, that is the sort of inflammatory suggestion I would expect from GB news.