Starmer admits he’s frustrated by his first year in power.

*Here not hear ha!

Allira

Ilovecheese

He has let Farage take control of the narrative over the summer. Sometimes he seems to not see or not understand what is happening, hence his dismissal of his mps concerns over taking money away from ill and disabled people. Or he tries to compete with Farage (island of strangers) when he should be leading and promoting a vision that we can all get behind. Being successful at talking to leaders of other countries is not enough to make him an effective leader at home.

That's because he has been concerned with world affairs.

Farage has taken advantage of that, a case of Rome burning whilst Starmer is politicking on the world stage.

One of his nicknames is ‘Never Hear Keir’. Quite.
This man when asked admitted he prefers Dave’s to the HoC.

Give the man a break! He can't be responsible for everything that's going wrong, on the world or national stage.
The media hate him, and that's good enough for me.

I didn't vote him into [power. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
He didn't inherit a well run country by any means but he is too easily swayed to change his mind instead of standing his ground. The WFP's and the benefits overhaul, to name just 2, both needed doing. A means tested WFP plan would have protected those who need help with heating and would not have paid ex=pats the full allowance when most of them never turn the heating on! The benefits system is unsustainable. The genuinely disabled should be properly cared for but something is very wrong when you can be better off on benefits than working.
He's had a poor year in my opinion. Him and his Cabinet are all talk and no action. Never mind, Rachel Reeves is loitering in the background honing her Autumn Budget. We must all be looking forward to that!!!

I will add that he’s only one among many in recent years. Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak. All disastrous.

escaped

Give him a break folks, it's his birthday today. Though I doubt he feels much like celebrating!

I’m afraid that if someone sets out determined to be a PM and turns out to be so bloody bad at it, they don’t deserve any breaks.

Give him a break folks, it's his birthday today. Though I doubt he feels much like celebrating!

Who in their right mind would want to be a PM at the moment, let alone PM.

It is a poisoned chalice.

He always appears to be on the back foot to me regarding domestic affairs, on the world stage he comes across more statesmanlike.

Mollygo

Every new government gets in because the public are not satisfied with the previous one.
Every new government blames the problems they face on the actions of the previous government.

Every government in opposition points out the defects of the government in power and assures voters that they can do better if they are elected.

So what has KS done, to cause so much disenchantment among so many, so early?

He’s not provided instant results or even hope that it will come.

“WE” are all in the same boat half the population don’t have enough, the other half have too much and don’t want to give anything up.

Starmer knows what needs to be done and started in the right vein but several U Turns negated most of it because his own MPs would not back him. He has now announced a reshuffle
strengthening his treasury and finance team, to make up for Reeves’s shortcomings.

I hope he succeeds, if not it’s worse for the poorest.

If Nigel Farage and Reform hadn’t dominated the news over the summer, Labour would have made no announcements about the immigration hotels finishing early (we’ll see) or the restricting of family members coming over.

They just seem to jump on these types of issues when it’s obvious things aren’t going their way.

Every new government gets in because the public are not satisfied with the previous one.
Every new government blames the problems they face on the actions of the previous government.

Every government in opposition points out the defects of the government in power and assures voters that they can do better if they are elected.

So what has KS done, to cause so much disenchantment among so many, so early?

I meant to quote thst:

Being successful at talking to leaders of other countries is not enough to make him an effective leader at home.

I agree.

Ilovecheese

He has let Farage take control of the narrative over the summer. Sometimes he seems to not see or not understand what is happening, hence his dismissal of his mps concerns over taking money away from ill and disabled people. Or he tries to compete with Farage (island of strangers) when he should be leading and promoting a vision that we can all get behind. Being successful at talking to leaders of other countries is not enough to make him an effective leader at home.

That's because he has been concerned with world affairs.

Farage has taken advantage of that, a case of Rome burning whilst Starmer is politicking on the world stage.

Casdon

The royal ‘we’ is in use again I see.

😂😂😂
And again 🥛

FriedGreenTomatoes2

So are we.

Don't! Just when I was having a drink of water!
😂😂😂

When Starmer refers to what he and his Cabinet have inherited, MadameFeuveral he says much the same as you did. I don't think the 75% that FGT refers to were listening when he said it. If he shouted it out any louder he would be condemned as a doom-sayer and voted out in favour of someone who says "It is easy - just do this and this and this and life will be a dream, sweetheart." But it won't be. That is reality.

That really would be a turn up for the books Elegran!

But it no use being unenchanted by the policies that the leader of the party in power is following, if you can't put forward an alternative. What would you do if you could make the decisions? You could make a list - but do a bit of research also into the cost of your suggestions, how you would balance that with savings elswhere, and the foreseeable effects of both what you suggest and the balancing that you would do. Then the Gransnet think tank can discuss something positive instead of negativity.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

So are we.

I thought you now liked him FGT?

We are in an 18 year long economic stagnation with growing costs for pensions debts and health care. So every prime minister since then has had to axe services while promising growth is just round the corner.

We have had net immigration of 3 million in 4 years when people have consistently voted for less immigration, even when it was net 250 000 a year.

Until politicians admit where we are and the huge problems we face, they will constantly disappoint. But then politicians aren’t rewarded for telling the truth.

75% of people polled over the weekend think Starmer’s doing a bad job MayBee.

I’m not interested in what Farage would do. This thread is about my disenchantment of Starmer.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Seems closing asylum hotels is now an “aspiration”.

I seem to remember this being a guarantee. But then again I also remember you promising to freeze council tax, “smash the gangs” and that your manifesto was “fully costed”. 😂

However frustrated you are, most of the British people are infinitely more so.

It was the Conservatives that started using hotels. Can you explain to me what exactly Farages cunning plan is given that you seem to think he has the answer to all of this? And I don’t think that ‘most of the British people’ think like you. I give them more credit than that…

Seems closing asylum hotels is now an “aspiration”.

I seem to remember this being a guarantee. But then again I also remember you promising to freeze council tax, “smash the gangs” and that your manifesto was “fully costed”. 😂

However frustrated you are, most of the British people are infinitely more so.

Yes, I read that too Primrose. His back benchers aren’t happy. Mind you a few only just scraped in as MPs and fear for their seats at the next GE unless Labour starts producing results instead of carping about ‘what they’ve inherited’. It’s getting tiresome. I think the honeymoon period is over.

He’s not an engaging orator is he escaped?
I could forgive him that though f he was at least decisive - not so many bluddy ‘U’ turns.

He’s not inspired many.

Yes I know the Tories were awful. 14 years blah blah …. However that means Starmer’s had 14 years to think about problems/solutions and 14 months in, he’s coming over as pretty ineffectual. No dynamism, sadly.