Starmer admits he’s frustrated by his first year in power.

I'm not surprised he is frustrated. He does a lot of research, consults a lot of people, works out what will give a long-term effect (and isnt a quick fix or unaffordable), then puts it up for discussion - and is blasted by people who see only their own corner of the problem and think that a different political party will improve their life with a magic wand.

The royal ‘we’ is in use again I see.

He’s frustrated?

Some of the rest of us are too!

I’m more frustrated by the pressures the govt faces than it not getting everything sorted overnight

He has let Farage take control of the narrative over the summer. Sometimes he seems to not see or not understand what is happening, hence his dismissal of his mps concerns over taking money away from ill and disabled people. Or he tries to compete with Farage (island of strangers) when he should be leading and promoting a vision that we can all get behind. Being successful at talking to leaders of other countries is not enough to make him an effective leader at home.

Me too Iam

When I took over as leader of the Labour Party, I said there will be sort of three phases to this.

You've got to sort of build the fundamentals first and then you move on to the second stage.

What's with these sort of s? He sounds rather uncertain and vague.

Ilovecheese

He has let Farage take control of the narrative over the summer. Sometimes he seems to not see or not understand what is happening, hence his dismissal of his mps concerns over taking money away from ill and disabled people. Or he tries to compete with Farage (island of strangers) when he should be leading and promoting a vision that we can all get behind. Being successful at talking to leaders of other countries is not enough to make him an effective leader at home.

Alas, unlike Farage he doesn’t have the tongue of a snake oil salesman. But I know which of them I think is an honest man trying to do his best for the country.

escaped

^When I took over as leader of the Labour Party, I said there will be sort of three phases to this^.

You've got to sort of build the fundamentals first and then you move on to the second stage.

What's with these sort of s? He sounds rather uncertain and vague.

He is right in what he says though, that’s what all governments do -18 months or so of policies people hate, 2 years or so of consolidation, 18 months of giveaways and things that people want/promises pre-election.

Casdon

The royal ‘we’ is in use again I see.

Apologies Casdon I ought to have said “so are many of us” perhaps. 🤷‍♀️

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Casdon

The royal ‘we’ is in use again I see.

Apologies Casdon I ought to have said “so are many of us” perhaps. 🤷‍♀️

Or just ‘I’?

He was completely out of touch but I think the penny is finally dropping. I believe that is as a result of many of his own party putting him straight

He has admitted he wouldn’t like living next door to a migrant hotel and has said he wouldn’t like his daughter having to walk past them to school.

He’s not an engaging orator is he escaped?
I could forgive him that though f he was at least decisive - not so many bluddy ‘U’ turns.

He’s not inspired many.

Yes I know the Tories were awful. 14 years blah blah …. However that means Starmer’s had 14 years to think about problems/solutions and 14 months in, he’s coming over as pretty ineffectual. No dynamism, sadly.

Yes, I read that too Primrose. His back benchers aren’t happy. Mind you a few only just scraped in as MPs and fear for their seats at the next GE unless Labour starts producing results instead of carping about ‘what they’ve inherited’. It’s getting tiresome. I think the honeymoon period is over.

Seems closing asylum hotels is now an “aspiration”.

I seem to remember this being a guarantee. But then again I also remember you promising to freeze council tax, “smash the gangs” and that your manifesto was “fully costed”. 😂

However frustrated you are, most of the British people are infinitely more so.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Seems closing asylum hotels is now an “aspiration”.

I seem to remember this being a guarantee. But then again I also remember you promising to freeze council tax, “smash the gangs” and that your manifesto was “fully costed”. 😂

However frustrated you are, most of the British people are infinitely more so.

It was the Conservatives that started using hotels. Can you explain to me what exactly Farages cunning plan is given that you seem to think he has the answer to all of this? And I don’t think that ‘most of the British people’ think like you. I give them more credit than that…

75% of people polled over the weekend think Starmer’s doing a bad job MayBee.

I’m not interested in what Farage would do. This thread is about my disenchantment of Starmer.

We are in an 18 year long economic stagnation with growing costs for pensions debts and health care. So every prime minister since then has had to axe services while promising growth is just round the corner.

We have had net immigration of 3 million in 4 years when people have consistently voted for less immigration, even when it was net 250 000 a year.

Until politicians admit where we are and the huge problems we face, they will constantly disappoint. But then politicians aren’t rewarded for telling the truth.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

So are we.

I thought you now liked him FGT?

But it no use being unenchanted by the policies that the leader of the party in power is following, if you can't put forward an alternative. What would you do if you could make the decisions? You could make a list - but do a bit of research also into the cost of your suggestions, how you would balance that with savings elswhere, and the foreseeable effects of both what you suggest and the balancing that you would do. Then the Gransnet think tank can discuss something positive instead of negativity.

That really would be a turn up for the books Elegran!

When Starmer refers to what he and his Cabinet have inherited, MadameFeuveral he says much the same as you did. I don't think the 75% that FGT refers to were listening when he said it. If he shouted it out any louder he would be condemned as a doom-sayer and voted out in favour of someone who says "It is easy - just do this and this and this and life will be a dream, sweetheart." But it won't be. That is reality.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

So are we.

Don't! Just when I was having a drink of water!
😂😂😂

Casdon

The royal ‘we’ is in use again I see.

😂😂😂
And again 🥛