1,027 irregular migrants arrive here on rubber boats in the last 24 hours.

It is probably the case that we see the boat-borne immigrants because Britain is an island. On the continent, immigrants merely walk across the border
That being so does not reduce the problem here. I have no solution to offer.

Mollygo

Was the number of boats wrong then, Casdon?
Do you disagree with that number?

I was talking about her perspective rather than her post that started the thread - evident from the ‘people who agree with many of us on here’.

woodenspoon

That’s not what I said Iam64. Not at all. You’re over reaching here. Nothing about my post was offensive. I leave that to,others.

I found the post offensive which is why I replied to it. And because I included your post my reply was deleted too.

I find a lot of posts on here ‘offensive’ but I’d never stoop to getting them removed. It seems to me that if you’re for unfettered immigration then that’s ok. For others such as myself people find our posts ‘offensive’ and want them removed. No debate allowed just agree or be deleted. Trouble is, in the real world, as we are seeing people won’t be deleted. They’ve found their voices and won’t be silenced. Intimidation tactics don’t and won’t work. People don’t want non documented migrants flooding into this country which is why the government are running scared belatedly.

Maremia

With so many clever folk on here (no, I am not being sarcastic, there is a wealth of exprience) how do we stop the boats in a legal and humane way?

Having a legal way to apply to come would be a hood start.

growstuff

travelsafar

Maybe we need to do as we did in 2nd WW and barracade the beaches they land on. We thought it would stop our enemies back then. Just a thought🤔

Are you aware that some did still get through and that locals had to have licences to use the beaches and go fishing?

Barricading the beaches would be quite a task!

Stopping anyone coming in means stopping people going out too and everyone coming in!

woodenspoon

I find a lot of posts on here ‘offensive’ but I’d never stoop to getting them removed. It seems to me that if you’re for unfettered immigration then that’s ok. For others such as myself people find our posts ‘offensive’ and want them removed. No debate allowed just agree or be deleted. Trouble is, in the real world, as we are seeing people won’t be deleted. They’ve found their voices and won’t be silenced. Intimidation tactics don’t and won’t work. People don’t want non documented migrants flooding into this country which is why the government are running scared belatedly.

I imagine your post was removed because it was discourteous woodenspoon. I saw it after it had been deleted, but it was still quoted on a response, and cringed when I saw you had said what another poster had said was ‘utter drivel’. That is really offensive, why not just say ‘I disagree’?

No, Gemini just trawls through stuff.

I simply asked it to do so when I could find no evidence of the alarming story.
Someone upthread reminded us all how doctors surgery registration and funding works and explained what might be the grain of truth behind the somewhat outlandish claim.

Oh yes, it was you, Foxie - thank you.

Casdon

Mollygo
Was the number of boats wrong then, Casdon?
Do you disagree with that number?
I was talking about her perspective rather than her post that started the thread - evident from the ‘people who agree with many of us on here’.

So was the number arriving by boat wrong?

Should we not be concerned about the number
without being accused of not caring about the problems of those arriving by boat,
or being worried about those in the UK who are homeless, needing food banks, or unable to afford dental care or get registered with a doctor?

Casdon

woodenspoon

I find a lot of posts on here ‘offensive’ but I’d never stoop to getting them removed. It seems to me that if you’re for unfettered immigration then that’s ok. For others such as myself people find our posts ‘offensive’ and want them removed. No debate allowed just agree or be deleted. Trouble is, in the real world, as we are seeing people won’t be deleted. They’ve found their voices and won’t be silenced. Intimidation tactics don’t and won’t work. People don’t want non documented migrants flooding into this country which is why the government are running scared belatedly.

I imagine your post was removed because it was discourteous woodenspoon. I saw it after it had been deleted, but it was still quoted on a response, and cringed when I saw you had said what another poster had said was ‘utter drivel’. That is really offensive, why not just say ‘I disagree’?

I have seen “utter drivel” used on here countless times. I don’t consider it offensive at all. I noticed one of your posts was deleted the other day so you are not perfect by any means.

I didn’t say i was perfect Primrose53, who is - but I can say I have never called another person’s post ‘ utter drivel’ even when I thought it was.

I am perfect and anyone who disagrees is talking utter drivel.

Hi Everyone - I asked for my post to be taken down this morning, as I said I would do. Unfortunately Admin haven't yet removed it, and I've reported it for the 2nd time tonight.

I posted it in good faith. Perhaps some of you are right and it IS fake. I humbly apologise. I won't be posting on the political threads again.

Don't be put off, Sparklefizz. You have acknowledged it was fake and have apologised.
I can understand how it happened, not everyone checks their sources, you're not the only one.
The problem is, other posters keep repeating it.

Perhaps if other people bombarded GNHQ with reports they might delete it for you.

Galaxy

I am perfect and anyone who disagrees is talking utter drivel.

Yes, of course they are Galaxy. I’m not though, and I’m pretty sure you haven’t been that discourteous to another poster, that’s not your style, is it?

Please please can someone explain which posters on here are “for unfettered immigration”

I begin to feel Mr Trump’s determination to forget any notion of good manners or balanced debate is being replicated on here

Oh, sparklefizz, don't do that. Everyone makes mistakes ( except me because of the perfect thing) or posts something that they might regret. It can get a bit feisty on the politics threads, but generally people on here are OK.

No I don't think it is my style Casdon, thankyou for that. Nor yours for that matter.
I have seen much worse than utter drivel of course, often under the guise of 'some posters'.

Casdon

I don’t believe that is the case Mt61. Groundhog Day posts never generate the same level of debate as those about new topics.

Maybe not on here Casdon, but people in general are getting fed up.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Okay.
I won’t mention the huge numbers anymore. You all must think it’s acceptable, not worth mentioning - and that we can afford accommodation, 3 meals a day, clothes, a doctor and dentist on tap plus extras for all who wish to arrive.

I’m in the minority on here then, which I shall now accept. Not a peep from me going forward concerning this topic. 🤷‍♀️

I’m absolutely with you, FGT. How can anyone think this is sustainable or acceptable!

Galaxy

No I don't think it is my style Casdon, thankyou for that. Nor yours for that matter.
I have seen much worse than utter drivel of course, often under the guise of 'some posters'.

Me too, and sometimes people have reported them, and sometimes not - quixotic I guess, it depends on how affronted people are. I still think it’s discourteous to say somebody else’s post is utter drivel though, whoever says it, and whoever they say it to.

Maremia

Sorry SueinEspana, those people are asylum seekers until their asylum plea is accepted or rejected.
If rejected, that is when they become illegal immigrants.
Hope this helps.

Actually, there are many illegal immigrants in the country, not living in hotels but living amongst us all.
We really have no idea how many but changes brought in hastily this year to try to solve the problem have caused problems for genuine visitors to the UK who wish to come here on holiday and then return home.

Mollygo

Casdon

Mollygo
Was the number of boats wrong then, Casdon?
Do you disagree with that number?
I was talking about her perspective rather than her post that started the thread - evident from the ‘people who agree with many of us on here’.

So was the number arriving by boat wrong?

Should we not be concerned about the number
without being accused of not caring about the problems of those arriving by boat,
or being worried about those in the UK who are homeless, needing food banks, or unable to afford dental care or get registered with a doctor?

No, I didn’t say the number of migrants (I assume that’s what you mean?) was wrong Mollygo, nor did I say you shouldn’t be concerned about the number, or about any of the other things you mention? I didn’t say anything at all about migration in fact, and I won’t, as I said earlier in the thread.

Sparklefizz I think you don't need to take your post down. I think we mostly think it was repeated in good faith.

Unfortunately not everyone has read the whole thread and so it has been repeated again.
- but we can all only report what we have heard and read

Some of us are trying to engage in a dialogue and a few are not really.
So come back Sparklefizz I think we are all OK.

woodenspoon

I find a lot of posts on here ‘offensive’ but I’d never stoop to getting them removed. It seems to me that if you’re for unfettered immigration then that’s ok. For others such as myself people find our posts ‘offensive’ and want them removed. No debate allowed just agree or be deleted. Trouble is, in the real world, as we are seeing people won’t be deleted. They’ve found their voices and won’t be silenced. Intimidation tactics don’t and won’t work. People don’t want non documented migrants flooding into this country which is why the government are running scared belatedly.

Why do you assume someone reported it? HQ don’t remove posts just because they have been reported unless they break certain guidelines.