King Charles and Prince Harry

I so agree Aveline , I thought his entire visit was embarrassing, poor man really overdid things for the cameras,
and like his wife he is ‘a hugger’

There is too much exposure of the royal family now, many are
deeply unpleasant people like Andrew.
Naturally a father doesn't want estrangement from his children, once trust is broken however, especially in such a vindictive way and true feelings expressed to the world it can never be a proper relationship again and I doubt William would risk it. Harry knows that.

Much fault with all the exposure is the media, constantly photographs of nieces and nephews of the king, the ‘royal experts” who know the thoughts of every royal family member,
And with Sarah Ferguson leaping around on Instagram and giving many, many tv interviews

Well, even I don't trust Harry one inch and he hasn't done anything to upset me. I'm sure the family members he's criticised and betrayed will always feel very hurt and upset and wary around him. He even ridiculed William's hair loss but look who's losing his now. I think he has a nasty spiteful side to his character and I hope he doesn't let Charles down after this meeting because more stress and upset is the last thing a cancer patient needs.

I’m the same age as Charles and after the trouble Harry had put the family through, moreover, doing it for money makes it even worse. I would have been telling him that he was getting no inheritance at all.

All families have their differences, we get round them in different ways, if H&M couldnt get on with the rest they could have retired to a family estate and lived a private life - they chose not to

They chose to sell the scurrilous tales humiliating the whole family knowing the family could not refute them and to me that would be unforgivable

It is right and proper that Charles and Harry, as father and son, attempt a reconciliation, and I hope it succeeds.
What I do not want, and I have every right to an opinion as the monarchy belongs to Britain, is to see Harry returning to any form of public life. He has said and done too many unpleasant things about his family and his country to warrant any respect.His recent appearances smack of the influence of a PR team, and an American one at that, and I hope we have the sense not to be fooled by his public, self-promoting yet very cheap gestures.

I am now wondering if there was an ulterior motive behind Harry’s visit.
A financial one perhaps?
He has repeatedly complained about his father cutting off his allowance at some point after he left the country, and we all know how he feels about not being entitled now to police protection here.

I can imagine a conversation where H is showing his father pictures of his children and saying how much he would love his papa to see them but he fears for their safety.

Emotional blackmail is by no means beyond Harry.

Meanwhile what about poor Thomas Markle? No hint of a reconciliation there.

What a cold hearted, vindictive woman Harry’s wife is.

I truly believe Harry is again using his family and the media, I thought his behaviour during his visit was embarrassing

JenniferEccles

Meanwhile what about poor Thomas Markle? No hint of a reconciliation there.

What a cold hearted, vindictive woman Harry’s wife is.

I was wondering if the reason for the attempted reconciliation is because they will be realising their children have little or no family, and even Doria hasn’t been seen much.
I thought this too when one of Meghan told one of her ‘friends’ on a clip from her show that ‘everyone’ was still talking about the food at their wedding. Who would that have been, since they’re hardly in touch with any of their guests ( the UK ones anyway)?
I was also thinking that the children will now know what kings, princes, and princesses are, and will presumably be asking questions.

Harry has not only alienated himself from his family he has alienated his children who had no choice in the matter. He should at the very least make it possible for Charles to see his grandchildren. Or how can he point the finger at Charles for being a rubbish dad, looks like he isn’t much better.

Babs03

Harry has not only alienated himself from his family he has alienated his children who had no choice in the matter. He should at the very least make it possible for Charles to see his grandchildren. Or how can he point the finger at Charles for being a rubbish dad, looks like he isn’t much better.

I'm sure Charles is longing to see his grandchildren.

I see trouble ahead for Harry’s marriage. He may want to return to Britain but I don’t think Meghan does. She didn’t like it here before so why would she feel any different now particularly when so many expressed approbation towards her and Harry following their broadcasts dissing the rf. Meghan is forging ahead with her own career in her own country and Harry is on a limb. He misses his family here so I can see why he wants to reconcile with his father. Charles would like to see his gc and its rumoured Harry would like his children educated here. I can’t see Meghan agreeing with that however. What I can see is Harry trying to creep back and Meghan taking the blame for his previous behaviour.

Harry wouldn’t live here and leave the children in America, Megan needs the children in America,yes she is their mother but they also are a strong connection to the royal family , she posts photographs of their hair and them running often

Allira

I can never understand why people post on a thread just to say they are not interested in the subject.

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I’ve said that too, on occasion, Allira. I wonder if they want the rest of us to look stupid for being interested. Frankly, I’m not interested that they’re not interested! 🤣

Crossstitchfan

Allira

I can never understand why people post on a thread just to say they are not interested in the subject.

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I’ve said that too, on occasion, Allira. I wonder if they want the rest of us to look stupid for being interested. Frankly, I’m not interested that they’re not interested! 🤣

But FGT2 did ask are you bothered
So it was an appropriate answer in this particular instance. 😁

I should not skim read.

I've read that Meghan's previous husband said that she'd had a hysterectomy while still married to him. Could be scurrilous American gossip or could be why we are never shown their faces in photographs.

Aveline

I've read that Meghan's previous husband said that she'd had a hysterectomy while still married to him. Could be scurrilous American gossip or could be why we are never shown their faces in photographs.

Still no reason why they aren’t hers. She could have saved some eggs which ties up with the other rumours that she used a surrogate. Not showing the children’s faces could be to protect them and also something that other in Meghan’s circle do. In the photos of Archie as a baby I could see Thomas Markle.

This is getting silly now.

She could have saved some eggs which ties up with the other rumours that she used a surrogate.

If this was the case it seems odd that she looked visibly pregnant.
Was it fake padding? That would seem odd to me.

kittylester

We need him inside the family rather than setting up a court in America in opposition to William after Chatles dies.

The bestselling book, no.1 in USA and UK of 2020 -

Finding Freedom -
Harry and Meghan and the making of a modern Royal Family

the title describes their intentions although clearly
these have not materialised

There are umpteen photos of Meghan's 'baby bump' in all sorts of positions at various apparent stages of a pregnancy. Looks most odd. Sometimes up and sometimes down at all the wrong stages. Mind you, who can forget the ghastly video of her twerking while apparently in labour?! Whatever.

merlotgran

This is getting silly now.

It really is

I know

Having watched his performance this week, I think he is quite a hateful individual. His sole sim is to usurp his brother and Kate. He thinks he has succeeded. If Charles is thinking of bringing him back in an official capacity then he is a fool. Many online commentators are saying Charles wants to rehabilitate him before he goes as he knows William will make sure there’s no way back for either of them. Who knows? We will never know the truth about any of it. It’s all smoke and mirrors.