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V3ra Tue 07-Oct-25 09:24:44

What's that famous Gransnet saying?
"When people show you who they are... "

You've done a great job over many years. If no-one else stood against this lady as chair, the rest of the choir will have to live with her 🤷🏻

Time for a fresh start, with no responsibilities for you. You deserve and need a peaceful life, not one with any aggravation.

Keep singing! 🎶🎶🎶

25Avalon Tue 07-Oct-25 09:19:45

Luckygirl this is awful. Try to draw a line under it and not be bitter although you have every reason to be. Go and join a new choir and enjoy. The old one did not deserve you and will very likely come to regret it.

Luckygirl3 Tue 07-Oct-25 09:17:46

I am very happy with the idea of someone else having a gfo, but not happy about the way in which this has been achieved - it is devious and underhand.

I also feel that the designs she is putting forward are quite simply tacky. They have cartoons downloaded from AI and are in my opinion simply not appropriate to the sort of sometimes deeply spiritual music that the choir performs.

petra Tue 07-Oct-25 09:14:44

Luckygirl
You might just yet have your day.
There’s every possibility that an issue might arise and you’re the only person who knows the answer.
Oh wouldn’t that be luverly 🎼🎼🎼

keepingquiet Tue 07-Oct-25 09:13:43

I may well have done the same faced with this annoyance.

However, I may also have taken it as a sign that there's nothing wrong with someone else having a go.

I hope your new choir is bringing you the joy the last one did- just move onwards and upwards...

Smileless2012 Tue 07-Oct-25 09:12:09

You've done the right thing by leaving Luckygirl as IMO it is not just the attitude of this person that is unacceptable, but the fact that those you have sung with and done your best for have allowed this to happen.

Enjoy your new choir.

AGAA4 Tue 07-Oct-25 09:10:37

I am sorry this woman has ruined things for you in your choir. You have done the right thing in leaving and joining another choir. I doubt things will be as good without you.
Hope you enjoy the new choir.

Lathyrus3 Tue 07-Oct-25 09:06:15

I totally recognise this as a scenario of the powerful disrupter from a Book Group I used to belong to. It is very hurtful and the feeling of powerlessness to prevent it happening gnaws.

In the case I think that you only have to sit upon the bank and the body of your enemy will float by you (which philosopher was that?). I suspect that she will find publicity is not her forte after all, people won’t turn up to the performances like they did and there will be criticism and discontent, more members will leave and the choir will wither away.

I’m glad you’ve found another choir to sing with and I’m sure that soon you’ll be very glad you have made the move, as will others.

aggie Tue 07-Oct-25 09:06:04

You are definitely not wrong!
If this has spoiled the choir for you too much have a rest from it , but weigh up carefully before leaving
Your friends will see what has happened and stand by you if you decide to stay , think of the music and ignore the horrible woman

Luckygirl3 Tue 07-Oct-25 09:05:04

Thank you.

I am not in a position to fight this as even thinking about sends me into atrial fibrillation - and this is something I need to avoid. I feel I just need to put it behind me and move on - not so easy at this stage of life. I guess there is always one fly in the ointment.

Ashcombe Tue 07-Oct-25 09:01:33

What a sad end to your long association with a group where you should have been valued for your loyalty and publicity skills. It is likely that this newcomer's enthusiasm will wane when she realises the commitment involved, dealing with the duties of being chairman and publicity coordinator.

You’ve done exactly the right thing in leaving and your talents in every sense will be appreciated elsewhere, I’m sure. Good luck in the new choir! 🎶

petra Tue 07-Oct-25 08:59:45

I am so sorry that this has happened to you. I know what your choir meant to you. I know you’re not in the best place now to take this onboard, but!! she will be found out others members will see that the emperor doesn’t have any new clothes.
It won’t happen tomorrow or next week, but it will happen.

JackieBee1 Tue 07-Oct-25 08:54:01

You're not wrong. x

RosieandherMaw Tue 07-Oct-25 08:53:43

You are absolutely right to be hurt by this underhanded “coup d’état” and sadly your decision to withdraw from the choir totally understandable.
Could you fight back? You probably feel it’s not worth the aggro and why should you sink to her level.
I hope that the “better” members of the choir will appreciate all you have done and say so but there will always be those who seek power and the spotlight.
She sounds like one of these - you are better than this.

Luckygirl3 Tue 07-Oct-25 08:47:52

I have been a member of a choral society for many years - about 10. Seven years ago when they were struggling financially I offered to take on the task of designing all their publicity and programmes (a huge job involving lots of research) and have over those years saved them tens of thousands of pounds in designer fees and using printers who gave us a good deal rather than the designer's mate.

The task was all in my hands and I happily took responsibility for this. Everyone was relieved that they no longer had to worry about this and left it to me.

About a year ago a new woman joined and after a while she began sending me her ideas for the publicity, which were frankly tacky and not in keeping with the sort of music that we perform. At one point she started sending me adaptations of our logo and I had to be quite firm in the end that the logo was how people recognise us and was not for changing. She took the hump about this in a big way.

This new person is very forceful and determined and has weedled her way into the role of chair of the committee. At this year's AGM I stood down from the committee for health reasons but made it very clear that I was happy to continue with the publicity.

Just one week later at the first meeting of the new committee she apparently presented them all with her designs and persuaded them that she should take charge of this going forward.

She then emailed me with a fait accompli.

At no point did she tell me what she was planning even though at my last meeting I had been asked if I was happy to continue and said yes.

I have been deeply hurt by this and have taken the decision to sing elsewhere as the whole experience of singing with this choir has been tainted for me by this business. I feel sad that something so underhand and devious has been done and it will never be the same for me again.

I should say that all the feedback on my designs over the years has been excellent.

I think this person was miffed that I would not do what she wanted over the logo and designs and has sought to get her own way by devious means. She is only chair because under the Charity Commission rules there has to be one - and there was no one else.

Maybe I am just sounding off as I live alone, but how does this sound to everyone? Am I wrong to be hurt by this after so many years of bailing the choir out by taking on this task?