Halal Slaugthtering of Animals

bonbon01 why you used italics,

BlueBelle

Grannygravy do you really think the prawns and fish have wonderful lives or don’t they count !!!!

More to the point, does she think they had a kind death?

How does she think fish and prawns are killed? They suffocated.

The above is to JamesandJon33.

What wasn't "terribly clear"?

The rspca are very clear that they are campaigning for the sale of non stun meat ( whether halal or kosher) to be abolished so they obviously have some concerns. They are also campaigning for clear labelling so consumers van make an informed choice.

Yes, sunami, that is a choice too.

Aveline

Halal slaughter is barbaric. Surely we're better than that!

If you eat meat, (I do) you need to educate yourself . Slaughter houses are never pretty .I went regularly with our lambs.

If you are in UK and eat "regular" slaughtered meat, you are eating an animal that was stunned then bled out while it was unconscious but still alive. Exactly the same as stunned Halal.

<https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/slaughter/religiousslaughter>

Around 88% of animals slaughtered in the UK for Halal are stunned first.
All animals slaughtered under the Shechita (for Kosher) are non-stunned.

Perhaps we should be Jains .
Their diet is strict.
Even pulling up rooted vegetables offends them.

It's fine to be vegetarian or a vegan if you manage to function and don't lecture other people on your saintly existence !
My daughter's ling term ex was a Vegan .
He refused to eat out least the crockery and utensils be contaminated with "products of the flesh . "
I found catering for him tiring and thankless .
Ill tempered,volatile and moody -he was ill all the time and spent most of his time resting in bed.
My daughter was absolutely exhausted trying to hold down a full time job,run a home and raise their child.

I try not to eat meat and fish ,but I don't always find it easy.

bonbons01 That wasn’t terribly clear was it ?

Oh dear something I am not aware of.... growing up .. I knew our animals were slaughtered. plus some of farmers today are really into welfare. Would need to look into this more

Yes I am trying to avoid halal meat if possible, I know my favourite local takeaway use halal meat so I just avoid the meat dishes there, I am probably less diligent with supermarket meat.

They can be Punjabi too, JamesandJon33. That's why I used italics in an earlier post.

I am fortunate when buying meat and fish I use the local farm shop only buy free range, we live close to a thriving fishing area and can have a delivery straight from the small boats.

Just waiting for someone to say vegetables suffer…

Agree with you BlueBelle about the pig birthing crates. Cruel.

bonbons01

Yes, GrannyGravy13, you make your choice. There can be ways to not eat halal if so choosing. Some Supermarkets clearly labelled own branded meat is not halal.

Eat pork.

Indian restaurants are not halal. Indians are not Muslim. However many ‘Indian’ restaurants are Bangladeshi…..who are Muslim. Therefore halal.

BlueBelle, there is no surprise from me.

Perhaps we should be Jains .
Their diet is strict.
Even pulling up rooted vegetables offends them.

It's fine to be vegetarian or a vegan if you manage to function and don't lecture other people on your saintly existence !
My daughter's ling term ex was a Vegan .
He refused to eat out least the crockery and utensils be contaminated with "products of the flesh . "
I found catering for him tiring and thankless .
Ill tempered,volatile and moody -he was ill all the time and spent most of his time resting in bed.
My daughter was absolutely exhausted trying to hold down a full time job,run a home and raise their child.

I try not to eat meat and fish ,but I don't always find it easy.

Grannygravy do you really think the prawns and fish have wonderful lives or don’t they count !!!!

I think you d be surprise at some of the practices in non halal establishments and have you seen the dreadful conditions pigs can be kept in, in tiny pens just giving birth and nothing else and the chickens in sheds where they cant move Before pointing the finger we need to get our own ‘killing fields’ in order then we have genuine room for complaint

Yes, GrannyGravy13, you make your choice. There can be ways to not eat halal if so choosing. Some Supermarkets clearly labelled own branded meat is not halal.

As if prayers are going to help the poor animals.

bonbons01

I noticed a recent thread on GN where the OP asked people what their favourite cuisines were. In responses Indian cuisine featured quite heavily. In the UK the meat based dishes in the vast majority of Indian restaurants and takeaways are halal.

I enjoy Indian food, but, I only eat prawn, fish and vegetable dishes.

Errata -Jewish friends.

Kosher slaughtering is also very cruel .
Most of my Jewish don't keep kosher kitchens .
They find the meat too expensive and the kitchens too labour intensive.
My Muslim friends eat halal meat ,but dispute the authenticity of the origin . They claim that the prayers aren't recited in the correct way /sequence .