Goodbye Duke & Duchess of York.

If the ‘lovely’ Andrew was not a royal he would probably go to jail for his support of that awful Epstein man and his nasty offsider.

Yes since history was recorded men have sexually exploited vulnerable women and children, accepting that fact doesn’t make it acceptable behaviour.
Trafficked women, men and children are incapable, in law, of giving consent.

I also think that the family of Virginia G let her down .
Whete were they when she needed them ?
And now they are capitalising on her unfortnate life .

I know this might sound weird but for a long time men have been known to pay prostitutes. I can only wonder if Prince Andrew thought Epstein was gifting him Virginia G as some kind of present or benefit? Apparently Epstein paid Virginia 15k US dollars for services rendered. I can only assume prostitution was not considered abhorrent at that time in royal circles?

Sarah Ferguson seems to be in a bit of a pickle as well as the different stories come out. I don't think the media will be flocking to have her on set anymore. Their poor daughters. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Your kids embarrass you, not the parents. Andrew always was very stuck up and bad tempered.

FoghornLeghorn

I’m currently reading Entitled by Andrew Lownie. The sheer size of the York’s financial corruption is absolutely unbelievable. What a greedy, dishonest and unprincipled pair of grifters.

Interesting isn't it? Quite an eye opener. Clearly well researched, he is after all a well respected academic as well as author. None of the Yorks come out well from it.

I’m currently reading Entitled by Andrew Lownie. The sheer size of the York’s financial corruption is absolutely unbelievable. What a greedy, dishonest and unprincipled pair of grifters.

Iam64

It’s depressing to see older women describing an exploited, vulnerable young woman as working as a prostitute on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell.
Individuals who are trafficked to provide sex are not considered capable of giving informed consent.

VG’s background is similar to many girls and boys who are groomed, seduced then sexually abused and exploited. Like the girls abused by organised gangs, they often see the man, or more rarely woman, for first seduced them, as their boyfriend.
It’s not hard to accept that Virginia Guiffre began to be ,ore aware of the extent of exploitation and degradation she was experiencing, as she began to get older.

I absolutely support Galaxy’s comment about the link between men who use people who sell their bodies, domestic abuse and rape

It’s depressing to see older women describing an exploited, vulnerable young woman as working as a prostitute on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell.
Individuals who are trafficked to provide sex are not considered capable of giving informed consent.

Iam64, As a mother and grandmother of girls I, too, find it depressing.

Mt61

Anniebach

Quote Usedtobeblonde Sun 19-Oct-25 13:53:19
I have just read a news item that says a friend of Sarah Ferguson is quoted saying she is on the edge of a nervous breakdown and her sister has flown from Australia to be with her.
If true it has certainly changed her life and future perception of it.

How will she keep the lifestyle she is so accustomed to, many, many tv interviews, cameras constantly, she got back into the limelight after her toe sucking / licking, kissing holiday, she got back again after filmed selling introductions to her husband /ex husband, . The announcement about her sister could be another climb back

I didn’t know she had a sister!

I remember that her sister married an Australian farmer and lived in the Outback but I believe they got divorced some time later. She must have stayed in Australia.

Well said - they’re not very bright at all!

Many of the famous names are seen on the list of passengers on Epstein’s plane. Men like Trump and Clinton are known for making misogynistic comments (grab their pussy, if you’re rich they’ll let you do anything) or lying about sexual behaviour (I never had sexual relations with that woman)
It’s difficult to believe they were t at least aware, more likely up to their necks in the freely available sex from very yiung women

eazybee

Perhaps the spotlight will shift from them and settle on the real friends and associates of Epstein in America.

President Trump for one.......

When I look back at how young and naive I was at 17 and I was from a loving, nurturing family. But the minute I left home I could have easily been exploited. It was more luck than judgement that I wasn't.

It’s depressing to see older women describing an exploited, vulnerable young woman as working as a prostitute on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell.
Individuals who are trafficked to provide sex are not considered capable of giving informed consent.

VG’s background is similar to many girls and boys who are groomed, seduced then sexually abused and exploited. Like the girls abused by organised gangs, they often see the man, or more rarely woman, for first seduced them, as their boyfriend.
It’s not hard to accept that Virginia Guiffre began to be ,ore aware of the extent of exploitation and degradation she was experiencing, as she began to get older.

I absolutely support Galaxy’s comment about the link between men who use people who sell their bodies, domestic abuse and rape

Anniebach

Quote Usedtobeblonde Sun 19-Oct-25 13:53:19
I have just read a news item that says a friend of Sarah Ferguson is quoted saying she is on the edge of a nervous breakdown and her sister has flown from Australia to be with her.
If true it has certainly changed her life and future perception of it.

How will she keep the lifestyle she is so accustomed to, many, many tv interviews, cameras constantly, she got back into the limelight after her toe sucking / licking, kissing holiday, she got back again after filmed selling introductions to her husband /ex husband, . The announcement about her sister could be another climb back

I didn’t know she had a sister!

Had a rather unkind thought, after the divorce she was photographed standing with her two young daughters waving as the Queen passed by in a carriage, will she do same with grandchildren!

I said ages ago, that he was no Jimmy Saville. I take that back! Apologies. Probably sounded insensitive. I always thought he was the nice one of the family, but more I read & hear, I now believe that’s just not the case.
The way he treated people, especially the staff was appalling.
Pair of them are grifters in my opinion.

Usedtobeblonde

I have just read a news item that says a friend of Sarah Ferguson is quoted saying she is on the edge of a nervous breakdown and her sister has flown from Australia to be with her.
If true it has certainly changed her life and future perception of it.

I read that the sister was coming over anyway because she was invited to Sarah’s 66th birthday bash that Andrew was going to throw for her at Royal Lodge.

No surprise. It’s been cancelled!

Quote Usedtobeblonde Sun 19-Oct-25 13:53:19
I have just read a news item that says a friend of Sarah Ferguson is quoted saying she is on the edge of a nervous breakdown and her sister has flown from Australia to be with her.
If true it has certainly changed her life and future perception of it.

How will she keep the lifestyle she is so accustomed to, many, many tv interviews, cameras constantly, she got back into the limelight after her toe sucking / licking, kissing holiday, she got back again after filmed selling introductions to her husband /ex husband, . The announcement about her sister could be another climb back

Thank you Smileless

I have just read a news item that says a friend of Sarah Ferguson is quoted saying she is on the edge of a nervous breakdown and her sister has flown from Australia to be with her.
If true it has certainly changed her life and future perception of it.

She didn't sign a non disclosure agreement Annie it was an out of court settlement.

Allira.

I didn’t post as fact, I just asked a question , didn’t see the cheque so not the foggiest who gave the money

Anniebach,

The book from V Guiffrie doesn’t cross with the agreement she accepted millions from ?

Oh, was that hush money?
Keep your mouth 🤐

Anniebach

The book from V Guiffrie doesn’t cross with the agreement she accepted millions from ?

Oh, was that hush money?
Keep your mouth 🤐

That says a lot for our ignoble Prince.

The book from V Guiffrie doesn’t cross with the agreement she accepted millions from ?