Goodbye Duke & Duchess of York.

So. Frustrating, are there names given by the young girls, I have heard three names, British, Trump but has anyone spoken out

I’d be much more interested in the Americans involved as having seen the interview with Maitlis, I believe Prince Andrew is implicated but evidence of wrongdoing by key businessmen is in short supply. Boz

Anniebach

Quote Casdon Mon 20-Oct-25 09:40:58
It is verified by accounts from other girls I expect Anniebach. A lot of what happened is documented in the USA. We will be drip fed new revelations for years no doubt. .

I haven’t read any statements made in America,

No, not publicly released yet, but they are there, and information from Epstein’s diaries is being leaked bit by bit too.

Quote Iam64 Mon 20-Oct-25 11:11:20
Anniebach, there are a number of documentaries on Netflix where numerous victims are interviewed. Chilling

Thank you Iam, I don’t have Netflix so can’t read the statements, may I ask who did the interviews ? Netflix ?

Mamie

ronib

Goodness- there’s no way I would ever want to read this book. A waste of my fading eyesight.

In which case there is no point in even trying to discuss the book is there?

Audible?

Thank you, Calendargirl, I didn't know that (must keep up 😁).

That sounds preferable, big enough for the lifestyle they have to lead, with Nanny etc but not too ostentatious.

Allira

William and Catherine are soon moving into Forest Lodge in Windsor Great Park, an 8 bedroom mansion that is to be their ‘forever’ home, even when he becomes King apparently.

They will pay the going rate for renting it, and it has been ‘done up’ at their own expense, no cost to the taxpayer (i.e. us).

I don’t suppose they want Royal Lodge, it has been tainted with its associations with Andrew, (assuming he ever leaves).

Yes. They should move to America and live in disgrace.
Their daughters are absolutely blameless and put in a dreadful position.
I can just imagine the meetings going on. I do hope Princess Anne has some input.

Anniebach, there are a number of documentaries on Netflix where numerous victims are interviewed. Chilling

The USA is unlikely to commit to any investigation of key members so Prince Andrew is a diversion away from them. No names mentioned….Allira

Quote Casdon Mon 20-Oct-25 09:40:58
It is verified by accounts from other girls I expect Anniebach. A lot of what happened is documented in the USA. We will be drip fed new revelations for years no doubt. .

I haven’t read any statements made in America,

ronib

There are a number of other people who were involved with Epstein who have escaped investigation. Prince Andrew is very much a bit player.

Yes, but are they our concern or that of the USA?

Anniebach

Quote Casdon Mon 20-Oct-25 09:40:58
It is verified by accounts from other girls I expect Anniebach. A lot of what happened is documented in the USA. We will be drip fed new revelations for years no doubt. .

There will be proof of him speaking of his daughter’s age? I knew the family of a man hanged for.murder, his sister fought for years, he was given a free pardon

That’s an incidental issue Anniebach. What is important is whether other girls have testified that they were involved in sexual activities with him at any of Epstein’s homes.

Smileless2012

^Their daughters are no better^ why RosesandLilac what have they done?

they're contaminated by association but should they be? Is it right for them and the entire Royal Family to be castigated?

No, certainly it is not.

They should just both retired quietly to the remote countryside somewhere at their own expense. No more graces or favours. Why should any other country take them? That's unfair. Anyway, what would happen to the dogs?

Now, can Royal Lodge be refurbished for William and Catherine - if they want to live there, of course.

There are a number of other people who were involved with Epstein who have escaped investigation. Prince Andrew is very much a bit player.

“O Gracious Prince we thee implore
To go away and sin no more
But if that effort be too great
To go away at any rate.”

Love it, M0nica !!!

ronib

Goodness- there’s no way I would ever want to read this book. A waste of my fading eyesight.

In which case there is no point in even trying to discuss the book is there?

Goodness- there’s no way I would ever want to read this book. A waste of my fading eyesight.

should be 'any country' not 'and country'

Aveline

Having heard the latest on Andrew I think he and Sarah must leave the country at once and live abroad like the Duke of Windsor. Inexcusable behaviour. William and Charles must take a firm stand.

What country would take them? The USA have done their bit by providing a haven for Harry and Meghan. It would be unreasonable for them to take in these two as well.

What about Ruanda? They seem very willing to take any countires rag, tag and bobtail, if paid enough. Perhaps we could crowd fund and country that wants them.

A rhyme about Queen Caroline, George IV's hapless wife rerun for modern times,

O Gracious Prince we thee implore
To go away and sin no more
But if that effort be too great
To go away at any rate.

ronib

I don’t understand how Andrew Lownie is such an authority…. I expect he’s hoping for good sales on his book?

Have you read all the 59 pages of references and footnotes in
"Entitled"?
Actually have you read the book?

Their daughters are no better why RosesandLilac what have they done?

they're contaminated by association but should they be? Is it right for them and the entire Royal Family to be castigated?

ronib

This publicity is a gift to the publishing company. I know quite a few people with PhDs …. Variable in quality. It doesn’t bequeath omnipotence. In fact Lownie is on X declaring rising sales.

In what way are you qualified to judge the veracity of a PhD ronib? And on what do your base your judging criteria?

I would argue that it would be extremely unusual for either Magdelene College or the University of Edinburgh to hand out sub-standard post graduate degrees.

Casdon I used to work in publishing.

Quote Casdon Mon 20-Oct-25 09:40:58
It is verified by accounts from other girls I expect Anniebach. A lot of what happened is documented in the USA. We will be drip fed new revelations for years no doubt. .

There will be proof of him speaking of his daughter’s age? I knew the family of a man hanged for.murder, his sister fought for years, he was given a free pardon