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So - what do we all think it is? 3I/ATLAS

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CariadAgain Thu 27-Nov-25 08:38:40

So a global team of scientists are going to be closely tracking it for two months - as from today.

.....and they're still telling us it's just a comet - even though our planetary defences are about to go up.

All sorts of signs that it isn't a comet - eg changing track at intervals being the main one I guess.

Latest official photo a complete blur - but various amateurs have taken much better ones (ie that show it isn't just a comet). So how are we supposed to trust Earth scientists - when even amateurs are taking better photos than they are and it does seem odd just how bad NASA's photos are?

All sorts of theories coming out - on top of the pretty obvious official "It's a comet". Yeah right.....

My own personal take = it's an interplanetary probe. It's been ducking and diving near our adjacent planets (changing course to do so) and come next month it's our turn.

Makes sense to me - as obviously there are going to be loads of other species out there and lots of them will be more advanced than we are (technology-wise and/or as "people"). We ain't the only cookies on the plate.

To me - as a race as a whole we are very very primitive indeed. There's no doubt of that - considering the number of wars/amount of personal violence/amount of crime going on on Earth just how primitive we are as a race as a whole and it makes total sense to see how primitive our technology still is and, more to the point, how primitive we are generally as a species. Who wouldn't keep an eye on a primitive, aggressive race that was now technologically advanced enough it could manage to launch some spacecraft etc off Earth?

If I were any other species out there in space = I'd be keeping a darn close eye on us too in those circumstances and, seeing all those wars going on, would regard us as a threat. I do hope all nearby resident aliens realise there are some of us that are more advanced/nicer than all these warmongers etc we have on this planet.

Thoughts?

Homestead62 Thu 27-Nov-25 14:28:57

No idea what it is.

Allira Thu 27-Nov-25 14:35:33

There's more danger here on Earth.

CariadAgain Thu 27-Nov-25 14:46:56

Retread

I very, very seldom lose my temper, but when I do, it's a tsunami and my family all say my eyes turn black ... πŸ‘€πŸΌπŸ‘½

Errrrm...thanks all the same - but I'll pass on a meet-up.....LOL.

I guess everyone can be glad that neither of my tempers are like that then. I have my fathers Viking temper (as I call it) and can see ahead/see likely dangerpoints/have probably already dealt with them and "cut them off at the chase" and don't expect any change of viewpoint for years - bar big genuine apologies...and yep...he was armed forces too. So if someone has deserved something = well I wouldnt be them...

and I've got my mothers Celtic one - flash and flare and dinnerplates or something have been known to get thrown against nearest wall rather firmly. I saw my mother throwing and my father ducking and people have heard me throwing (glass bottles or bottles in my case) and it's "dive for the floor" outa the way....

Vast majority of people still don't believe I've got even one of those tempers - but those who've seen one of them....would tell them rather differently....

CariadAgain Thu 27-Nov-25 14:48:18

Homestead62

No idea what it is.

Homework for the day then....it's due at its nearest point to Earth in mid-December.

Allira Thu 27-Nov-25 15:43:28

CariadAgain

Homestead62

No idea what it is.

Homework for the day then....it's due at its nearest point to Earth in mid-December.

Which will be approximately 270 million kilometers or 170 million miles at its nearest point to Earth.

Of course, the aliens could parachute down.
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CariadAgain Thu 27-Nov-25 15:49:41

Or, more to the point, change course - again and this time to head nearer to us. We have no idea what their technology is like - other than probably/almost certainly a lot more advanced than ours is.

Allira Thu 27-Nov-25 16:08:55

What, comets?
Frozen gases, rock and dust have advanced technologies?

Eloethan Thu 27-Nov-25 16:27:06

I think if there is anyone/anything watching us, they must think what a horrible species we are - not content with killing each other, we are destroying our home, which is not just our home but the home to every other species.

Bodach Thu 27-Nov-25 16:55:31

I tend to regard these sorts of conspiracy theories propounded by people on YouTube and the like as having more to do with getting themselves money-related 'clicks' or 'likes' or whatever than simply portraying the less alarming facts. Of course 'a global team of scientists' are going to be tracking this comet: it's what they do.

petra Thu 27-Nov-25 17:08:48

CariadAgain

Scribbles

I'd never heard of 31/ATLAS until now but this thread has made diverting reading for my coffee break. πŸ˜ƒ

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Article about the latest "official" state of play in today's available articles in the "Daily Mail".

But yep the videos have been up there - both official and unofficial - for months on YouTube. NASA following the progress and other scientists and interested onlookers doing so.

Probably an example of a lot of the most important news takes quite some doing/if ever to get onto the mainstream media. We wouldnt know for instance that a huge capital city is in the process of being evacuated currently - Iran's capital city of 10 million people if we only saw the mainstream media. Reason - shortage of water (and with that goes other facilities too). Why it happened? - lots of dam building in the wrong places from what I can make out. But - yep....they are admitting to trying to find some clouds to "seed" the last I heard - to try and get some water. I've only spotted it on foreign news channels - but it's a major major event!!!!

Would love to offer them some of the surplus water we have here in Wales - rain...yet more rain....so often here.

I’ve heard several reports of the water problem in Iran on Radio 4 for some weeks.
That’s a British radio station πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

petra Thu 27-Nov-25 17:11:35

The link
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172zssdx2pp6nq

RosieandherMaw Thu 27-Nov-25 17:54:00

CariadAgain

Or, more to the point, change course - again and this time to head nearer to us. We have no idea what their technology is like - other than probably/almost certainly a lot more advanced than ours is.

Whatever makes you so sure?

Comets are a natural phenomenon - not a civilisation!

CariadAgain Thu 27-Nov-25 18:42:47

RosieandherMaw

CariadAgain

Or, more to the point, change course - again and this time to head nearer to us. We have no idea what their technology is like - other than probably/almost certainly a lot more advanced than ours is.

Whatever makes you so sure?

Comets are a natural phenomenon - not a civilisation!

The evidence is up there on YouTube by scientists (not yer average person in the street making it up). Analysing its trajectory, its changing appearance, etc and then comparing to comets and it's nothing like.

I reject the wackier videos up there - because it's just "yer ordinary person in the street" and non-scientifically minded and disagreeing with each other. But the ones by scientists are all saying much the same thing/much the same photos as each other.

Allira Thu 27-Nov-25 19:26:33

We wouldnt know for instance that a huge capital city is in the process of being evacuated currently - Iran's capital city of 10 million people if we only saw the mainstream media

It could be evacuated yes, but is it happening?
They have an unprecedented drought in the area.

agnurse Thu 27-Nov-25 19:28:34

All of this discussion about extraterrestrial life reminds me of a friend of ours who attended the New Mexico Military Institute in Roswell, New Mexico. (Yes, THAT Roswell.) He said that when people ask NMMI people about Roswell and the UFO that crashed, the standard response is, "You know, I hate that. People always ask about the one that crashed. They never ask about the one that completed our - I mean ITS - mission." The other NMMI joke is that when you graduate from there, you're replaced with an alien replica who is programmed with all of your memories, appearance, etc. It's so good even your family members and friends don't notice the difference grin

Sarnia Fri 28-Nov-25 13:34:12

Sago

My husband got chatting to a guy that worked for NASA on a flight. (We checked him out he was genuine)

He asked him if there were other signs of life out there.
He said most definitely and that many were living amongst us.

Ooo! That would make a fun thread. Who do you reckon is an alien being living amongst us? Don't know why my mind keeps thinking of Trump! grin

Oreo Fri 28-Nov-25 13:39:07

Sago

My husband got chatting to a guy that worked for NASA on a flight. (We checked him out he was genuine)

He asked him if there were other signs of life out there.
He said most definitely and that many were living amongst us.

That explains Donald Trump thenβ€¦πŸ€”πŸ€ͺ

Oreo Fri 28-Nov-25 13:39:43

Oops x post Sarnia😁

Oreo Fri 28-Nov-25 13:54:11

CariadAgain

Sago

Unfortunately no information although we have a family game β€œ the person most likely to be an alien”.
Politicians and London Mayors are up there!

It's the eyes - I tell ya it's the eyes.

Not sure I'm joking sometimes - as I do study peoples eyes and "update" looks at them at intervals - after I had the very unnerving experience of seeing what I thought was a friend at the time (he's been binned since - because I discovered he was a thief and planning on having a large "steal" from me!!!!!) first thing of a morning - and his eyes had changed.

One of his eyes still looked normal - but the other one had turned absolutely completely black (totally not a normal eye by any stretch of the imagination). Cue for he denied it - when I asked why that had happened and was rubbishing what I had seen very clearly. Half an hour later and that eye was back to normal. That put the wind right up me as to why that had happened and he was denying it had.

It put the wind up me even more when I read a couple of articles subsequently that there are people who have normal eyes and then they change occasionally (both eyes at once in their case) and then they give the crime record of these people - ie they act normal sometimes but are evil and have just committed some awful crime (is psychopath the word I'm searching for here???).

I tell ya that unnerved me - though I didnt bin him until I realised he was after the info on my computer hard drive - and he was history two minutes later....

With you on some politicians and look into their eyes in photos etc too and sometimes really don't like what I see there and I have looked into the eyes of that London mayor and thought "Hmmmm....".

I think you may have been confusing the tv series Supernatural with life on Earth? Or at least life in Wales? Those with black eyes in the series are demons.πŸ™ƒ

Applegran Fri 28-Nov-25 13:56:26

I just found this on the internet:
The nearest known potentially habitable planet is Proxima Centauri b, about 4.24 light years away. With current spacecraft technology, it would take tens of thousands of years to reach it. Even with advanced concepts like fusion or generational ships, estimates range from 400 years to several millennia.

Oreo Fri 28-Nov-25 13:58:06

Visgir1

I agree we are surely not arrogant enough to think Earth is the only Planet with inhabitants? If Aliens are here I reckon they are Cats, where even you go in the World they are always there watching you 🀣🐱

And judging you!😲😼

BlueBelle Fri 28-Nov-25 14:05:25

I d blame it on smart phones Cariad

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Applegran Fri 28-Nov-25 14:07:35

I read that this is an interstellar comet - not one bound by the solar system. It has come from outer space so it is particularly interesting, and it is a comet which behaves a little differently from Solar system comets because it comes from somewhere different.

CariadAgain Fri 28-Nov-25 14:16:14

Oreo

CariadAgain

Sago

Unfortunately no information although we have a family game β€œ the person most likely to be an alien”.
Politicians and London Mayors are up there!

It's the eyes - I tell ya it's the eyes.

Not sure I'm joking sometimes - as I do study peoples eyes and "update" looks at them at intervals - after I had the very unnerving experience of seeing what I thought was a friend at the time (he's been binned since - because I discovered he was a thief and planning on having a large "steal" from me!!!!!) first thing of a morning - and his eyes had changed.

One of his eyes still looked normal - but the other one had turned absolutely completely black (totally not a normal eye by any stretch of the imagination). Cue for he denied it - when I asked why that had happened and was rubbishing what I had seen very clearly. Half an hour later and that eye was back to normal. That put the wind right up me as to why that had happened and he was denying it had.

It put the wind up me even more when I read a couple of articles subsequently that there are people who have normal eyes and then they change occasionally (both eyes at once in their case) and then they give the crime record of these people - ie they act normal sometimes but are evil and have just committed some awful crime (is psychopath the word I'm searching for here???).

I tell ya that unnerved me - though I didnt bin him until I realised he was after the info on my computer hard drive - and he was history two minutes later....

With you on some politicians and look into their eyes in photos etc too and sometimes really don't like what I see there and I have looked into the eyes of that London mayor and thought "Hmmmm....".

I think you may have been confusing the tv series Supernatural with life on Earth? Or at least life in Wales? Those with black eyes in the series are demons.πŸ™ƒ

Now there was the time (indeed times) he talked about having a "relationship" with a woman in another dimension......so I ain't entirely sure on that front....

You sure do See Life in some respects when you move here....I've certainly encountered some....errrr...."interesting" people shall we put it?

I've learnt to think "Maybe/maybe not" and to be aware that, for instance, I want people who say they are complementary health practitioners to have things like fixed premises/business cards/etc - in case they turn out to be "Hippy living in the woods/head in the clouds" and you wonder why they've not turned up for their home appointment with you. Yep...we do have a noticeable number living in the woods....

Though I've certainly read factual articles in the mainstream of people whose eyes normally look normal - but once in a bluemoon change to black (both eyes in their case) and the photos were there for comparison (before and after eye colour change) - and then they've been known to commit murder (ie because they are a psychopath).

CariadAgain Fri 28-Nov-25 14:19:55

Applegran

I just found this on the internet:
The nearest known potentially habitable planet is Proxima Centauri b, about 4.24 light years away. With current spacecraft technology, it would take tens of thousands of years to reach it. Even with advanced concepts like fusion or generational ships, estimates range from 400 years to several millennia.

We're judging by our primitive technology and that's a fundamental mistake.

After all - imagine someone on Earth trying to deal with, say, a medical matter with the "technology" of the time 200 years ago - ie no general anaesthetics/no belief in cleanliness/etc !!!!

Ditto - someone 200 years back being told one could transport from one end of the country to the other in a matter of hours (ie by plane) - when all they had was horse and cart and "knew" it took days.