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What are they actually doing in America to stop Trump?

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mumski Mon 19-Jan-26 14:07:02

There is obviously lots of media attention citing how appalling he is and all the vile nonsense he's been up to.
However, I see no effort being made by the American political system or the judiciary to actually stop the illegal and immoral acts he is carrying out and /or remove him from office.
Has any one any insight in to this?

suelld Tue 20-Jan-26 14:54:22

M0nica

There have been many and various attempts to rein Trump in in and there are many ongoing legal cases, but all these actions are being taken mainly at state level.

The main problem is that the president's authority is almost paramount and when you get some one like Trump to prepared to run roughshod and dismiss anyone who dares question him, it gets difficult. if a Trump opponent is dismissed - and many have been, he is replaced by a Trump stooge.

Trump is surrounded by as nasty a group of ,mainly, men on the make, who would render their own children down for lard if it was to their advantage, all of them contunually acting outside the law.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the only difference between the USA and other unpleasant countries like North Korea, Iran, China or Russia is that, as yet, except for the occasional protestor, there have been no widepsread extra-judicial murdering of his opponents.

Exactly right … read also the following re the NYT recent article on his corruption! Which everyone sees but seems to ignore. With a Corrupt Supreme Court what can be done except an uprising?
www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-wealth/?u=4c37e05b9179cc05372236cb974a8b744f70e4dc77252c0f0fc88a329eeb1b5c&utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Jan.20.2026_1.05pm

Nannapat1 Tue 20-Jan-26 14:43:45

I agree with butterandjam. I would add that we vote for a party (although our vote might be influenced who is currently leader) rather than a single person who becomes president. The Americans voted...and got DT.

Elegran Tue 20-Jan-26 14:34:33

Perhaps his party sees what he has done and what he is capable of doing, better than a member of the public does? If he went they would have to find someone to take his place.

If they were not satisfied they could replace him as leader of the party. Then his position would be constitutionally untenable.

It seems that in the US their president must be impeached and then put on trial in the Senate to get rid of him.

colliemum Tue 20-Jan-26 14:13:01

butterandjam

@imaround I wonder what you expect us to do? Honestly

Your situation seems so incomprehensible to us, because in our system (UK) if a Prime Minister goes rogue they are toast. We have ways to get shot of them fast at any stage of the current term . Their own party will turn on them (for making that party unelectable ) .

Americans often think we are "subjects" totally subservient to Monarchy.but that's not true either. If a Prince or even King goes feral , becomes an embarrassment, he goes too.

We just can't imagine a free western country where any single person is so completely unassailable as Trump appears to be.

"If a Prime Minister goes rogue they are toast." You have got to be joking! Starmer is a lier, a traitor, a Marxist and he is destroying our country. He has a massive majority based on only 20% of the electorate and is causing tremendous damage with every passing day. Examples? The Chagos Islands and the new Chinese Super-Embassy to name just two. He is the most unpopular PM the country has ever had, according to any poll you care to look at. Regarding freedom of speech, the UK now TOPS the World list of people arrested for social media posts, above even China and Russia. I don't see his party turning on him, do you?

Jockytaff Tue 20-Jan-26 13:57:58

Lahlah65- This ba###rd acts in no-one's interest but his own.

valdavi Tue 20-Jan-26 13:54:46

MayBee70

imaround

The United States had a checks and balances system that worked for 250 years. When there is an entire party who is committed to destroying a country, not much else will stop it.

Keep Farage and big money out of your elections if you don't want this happening in The UK.

And yet many people seem to regard him and the rabble that surround him, as the saviour of this country. Just goes to show how far a racist agenda can take you. Especially when the media are happy to provide so much coverage.

I think hammering home when Trump makes a complete idiot of himself - Acting like he's only just heard about Chagos Islands & it's something we've just spontaneously done, when Marco Rubio approved the deal 3 months ago
Telling people to swallow disinfectant because it kills Covid on worksurfaces
& most laughably telling Denmark their country had decided not to give him the Peace prize when the Nobel committee is based in Norway & Denmark's government has as little to do with it as Hawaii
Hammer home what a moron he is - no amount of fake news can negate the silliness of these statements, which he's never disowned - maybe people will be less keen on having a "Trump" of our own.

Geordiegirl1 Tue 20-Jan-26 13:47:29

In the mid-term elections, thé Republicans might lose the House and there might be some power to head him off.

rubysong Tue 20-Jan-26 13:41:50

Didn't Trump put most of the judiciary in place so they aren't likely to rein him in.

Maremia Tue 20-Jan-26 13:36:38

It is in the interest of many rich and wish to remain powerful people to support Trump.

AmberGran Tue 20-Jan-26 13:11:29

I read some comments on YouTube recently saying that America HAS to take over Greenland to survive, they have no choice - I don't know if these are made by people who have been brainwashed by Trump & Co or believe this themselves. Either way there are obviously a lot of ordinary people backing Trump still.

Luckygirl3 Tue 20-Jan-26 13:02:26

The whole Farage thing over here is media driven. He has a tiny number of MPs and if the media would just act accordingly then it would wither on the vine.

keepingquiet Tue 20-Jan-26 12:57:55

dotpocka

his minions write speeches daily for him he is not smart enough to do it himself'
there many in washington that are nazis

I find this difficult to believe. Do they also write his truth social posts? I have noticed he doesn't give many press conferences anymore.

I am not in favour of letting Trump off the hook and blaming others in this way.

Yes, they are equally culpable but Trump is the ringleader in my opinion.

eazybee Tue 20-Jan-26 12:41:36

American or not much interested in global or international issues unless they affect them, and at present at least part of the country is prosperous; the poor don't have much of a voice. They seem to believe in Make America Great Again, and not too concerned about how it is achieved.

Oreo Tue 20-Jan-26 12:23:32

Fallingstar

Fear is the dictator’s tool of choice and is all very well to say why don’t people protest but look what is happening to those who protest against what ICE are doing, and as in Iran those killed by ICE will be blamed.
When those in a position of authority can turn on the citizens with a gun and get away with it where do citizens go from there?
This is terrifying territory.
Not sure I would have the courage to protest in these circumstances.

I do take slight issue with you on saying or implying that any protesters will be killed as many have protested in the US about ICE in their neighbourhood or any other protest, and have done so fairly peacefully and are fine.
Just don’t obstruct or try and injure in any way anyone in authority with a gun, be it immigration people or police.

AGAA4 Tue 20-Jan-26 12:15:04

Stephen Miller, Vance and others are the power behind the throne. As MOnica puts it so well they are very nasty people.
If things go wrong Trump will be the fall guy.

dotpocka Tue 20-Jan-26 11:00:50

his minions write speeches daily for him he is not smart enough to do it himself'
there many in washington that are nazis

Aveline Tue 20-Jan-26 10:58:41

Starmer is better than Boris right now.

nanna8 Tue 20-Jan-26 10:39:55

He is possibly the most unsuitable person to be a president they have ever had. Makes Nixon look good. But they voted for him so just have to suck it up. Starmer is unsuitable as a PM, too but not in the same league. He would make a very good foreign minister, he is good at that but Trump - no nothing I can think of. Ah well, hope we don’t end up with a world war is all I can think.

imaround Tue 20-Jan-26 10:39:48

Fallingstar I just took my youngest to college in a rather red area and I advised him DO NOT attend protests right now.
People are getting shot and killed for protesting.

He hasn't sent troops to our city yet, but it is coming. If he is successful in Minnesota, he will be empowered.

I just hope this doesn't turn into a Revolution and Congress does it freaking job!

imaround Tue 20-Jan-26 10:34:45

For me, it is less about fear and more about feeling powerless.

Elegran Tue 20-Jan-26 09:56:19

It is divide and conquer, an ancient strategy.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 08:56:56

We have family in NYC and California and they are beyond incensed by Trump and his cronies but feel completely powerless.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Jan-26 08:54:57

Fear is the dictator’s tool of choice and is all very well to say why don’t people protest but look what is happening to those who protest against what ICE are doing, and as in Iran those killed by ICE will be blamed.
When those in a position of authority can turn on the citizens with a gun and get away with it where do citizens go from there?
This is terrifying territory.
Not sure I would have the courage to protest in these circumstances.

keepingquiet Tue 20-Jan-26 08:45:31

I think it's fear. That's how Facism works- if people don't speak out about the small things it will be too late when the big things come... and they seem to be coming,

imaround Mon 19-Jan-26 23:22:58

That is an interesting perspective Sue. I wonder if it is indecision or indifference?

I am going to be thinking that through later when I can't sleep. Everyone, no matter the letter by their name, come out of Congress wealthy. Can any of them be trusted to put us first? (No)