What are they actually doing in America to stop Trump?

Maremia

What are they doing in the USA?
To the astonishment of many, the NRA is starting to complain about ICE trying to say that citizens may not carry guns to protests. The 2nd Amendment is 'doctrine' to them, and they won't give up their rights easily.
Unforseen twist.

Unforseen twist.

Indeed. Especially when you consider that some owners see guns as a necessary check against potential government overreach which I believe is a motive rooted in the historical intent of the 2nd Amendment.

I wonder why ICE are attempting this? Is it to bolster their claim that Alex Pettri was pointing a gun at them - when all the available evidence indicates he was holding his mobile 'phone whilst they wrestled his gun from its holster... and then shot him multiple times?

... maybe it's some of those hastily recruited ICE agents who shouldn't be carrying weapons?

What are they doing in the USA?
To the astonishment of many, the NRA is starting to complain about ICE trying to say that citizens may not carry guns to protests. The 2nd Amendment is 'doctrine' to them, and they won't give up their rights easily.
Unforseen twist.

westendgirl

Moii,are your eyes closed and your ears not hearing ? I really do not see how anyone would wish the mayhem and cruelty happening in the U.S. on any country . Why do you think we need a Trump leading our country ?What good has he done ?
There are many living in the U.S. who cannot afford health care, who are concerned about having enough to pay the rent,let alone worrying that they might be snatched out their home. These are citizens of the U.S. who are experiencing this and you want it for this country !!!

Why do you think we need a Trump leading our country ?

Trawling Facebook has thrown up quite a few posters who think we in fact need Trump himself to 'sort out' our country!

Clearly, they do not understand sovereignty - nor how authoritarianism or dictatorships ultimately function.

An elite cabal in order to protect itself will eventually attack and dispose of anyone, any demographic, that threatens its existence, so unless you are one of the elite, or at least a subdued minion whose role is to support the Executive without question, it will eventually get rid of you. It's already happening in the US.

Niemöller knew this...

Basgetti

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Basgetti
You’ll love this one.
Side splittingly funny 😂

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He’s brilliant!

He's a very good mimic - has the tone of Trump perfectly!

petra

Basgetti
You’ll love this one.
Side splittingly funny 😂

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He’s brilliant!

Moii,are your eyes closed and your ears not hearing ? I really do not see how anyone would wish the mayhem and cruelty happening in the U.S. on any country . Why do you think we need a Trump leading our country ?What good has he done ?
There are many living in the U.S. who cannot afford health care, who are concerned about having enough to pay the rent,let alone worrying that they might be snatched out their home. These are citizens of the U.S. who are experiencing this and you want it for this country !!!

Basgetti
You’ll love this one.
Side splittingly funny 😂

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Thank you, Sue X

Basgetti hello. To start a new thread click on ‘Forums’ (Top left hand side of this page). You’ll then see a list of topics, scroll until you find the one you want, which I’m guessing is News & Politics. Click on that topic. You’ll see a list of current threads then at the bottom of the page, there’s a burgundy strip of buttons. Click on Add Thread and I think it’s self-explanatory from there. That’s in ‘mobile’ mode of Gransnet. HTH!

Can anyone tell me how I can start a new thread (sorry, it’s probably basic but I’m new here).
I want to point posters towards the very brave artists on Saturday Night Live who are lambasting Donald Trump. In these days, a pretty brave thing to do.

Moii, you have all of our attention, and it was brave of you to come on here, and go against the flow.
If you have a concrete example of how a Trump type would be good for us, please, if you wish, tell us what it is.

He is a treacherous, vindictive old man, with what looks like dementia. No thanks.

Well Moii
I like my leaders to be
. respectful of their electorate, and not refer to them as "scum"
.to answer difficult questions rather than insulting the questioner by telling her to be " Quiet, Piggy"
.to have the mathematical understanding of my nine year old GC, and not suggest that prices might be reduced by 1500%
.to have the scientific understanding of my seven year old GC and not suggest that injections of bleach might be a good idea
. to have the common sense of my five year old GC so not mention the fact that the aircraft are called stealth bombers because they're invisible.
So, that kind of rules out Mr Trump.

Moii

Maybe I'm in the minority but maybe not as the silent majority are just that silent, although he goes to far I quite respect the fact that you know where you are with him and says it as it is. We need a Trump type to sort this country out.

Oh dear. No we do not need his 'type'.

Moii

Maybe I'm in the minority but maybe not as the silent majority are just that silent, although he goes to far I quite respect the fact that you know where you are with him and says it as it is. We need a Trump type to sort this country out.

Good grief 🙄

keepingquiet

The only thing that matters to most Americans is money and fame. The media made Trump by putting him on their screens and people thought he must therefore be very special because he had so much money.
They also loved him because he wasn't a politician, and for some reason they gave him the most political poweron the planet.
Many continue to love him- many are worried but feel afraid to say so because that's how facism works. Others hate him and want him gone and they are growing in number...

Are we learning the lessons from the US experience? From the media and the supposed popularity of reform I would say not and may well find ourselves in a similar situation very soon...

Keeping quiet, I agree and he is turning America into a dictatorship. He is just like Putin, his friend. Does Trump think he can wage war against the rest of the world? I can't understand why the UK and other countries that have US bases don't threaten to remove these bases from their countries. Appeasing him is no longer the right move for a bully like Trump. Mark Carney's approach is the right one. Trump's America is no longer a friend to the UK.

I seem to remember other people on this forum saying the UK needs a Trump like leader to sort things out…

Moii

"We need someone like Trump to sort this country out!" Are you kidding? In what way is he sorting the US out? He has threatened and blackmailed his own officials and replaced those who challenge him with yes men, he has threatened, bullied and insulted many European countries, he has caused violence and dissent in his own country and, by all accounts, the economic miracle he promised is not happening.

Of course you don't know where you are with him - do you actually follow what is happening? Nobody knows what he is going to do next or which person or country he is going to target.

When the Diego Garcia/Chagos deal was being finalised, Trump thought it was a good idea. Now he doesn't. Now he states that he's not that interested in peace - because he did not get the peace prize. I wasn't aware that he had previously been a voice for peace anyway - he has stirred up hatred in his own country and in other countries.

I don't think the UK should have been in Afghanistan but our service people did have to go and many lost their lives or were seriously injured. Then he has the nerve to disparage them, to dismiss their contribution, a man who - like many rich men in the US - managed to avoid conscription and leave the fight to the poor and the minorities.

He is a disgusting excuse for a human being. He appears to have no sense of decency, no humility, no humanity and a very misguided sense of his own greatness.

Moii

Maybe I'm in the minority but maybe not as the silent majority are just that silent, although he goes to far I quite respect the fact that you know where you are with him and says it as it is. We need a Trump type to sort this country out.

The so-called "silent majority" are frequently anything but silent - and I suspect you're not the majority either.

If you "know where you are" with Trump then you could be a useful tool for industry and business - he recently spooked the markets with his (yet more) tariffs which were going to be imposed on those who opposed him. But weren't.

Personally, I'm not sure even Trump knows where Trump is often; he reacts like a petulant teenager when opposed - even mildly opposed.

If you want a 'Trump-type' to sort this country out, vote for Reform, but bear in mind that when these Trumpy-types 'sort out this country' they're looking at completely re-shaping our social, political and cultural system - and that means everything and everyone will be affected - not just those people or institutions that you think need attention.

Do you think he 'said it as it is' when he mocked and disparaged all the allies that answered his call under NATO after 9/11? Including those who paid the ultimate price and were returned to their families in coffins?

Moii

Maybe I'm in the minority but maybe not as the silent majority are just that silent, although he goes to far I quite respect the fact that you know where you are with him and says it as it is. We need a Trump type to sort this country out.

But the whole point is that you don't know where you are with him!

He goes from one outrageous statement which has little foundation in truth, or dangerous actions, to another, barely pausing for breath.

In the meantime, how are the Epstein files?
Quite the diversionary tactics.

Have to add ‘agree with Trump that UK armed services…..’
I certainly don’t agree with this but was a clumsy sentence that might make it sound as if I do.

Moii

Maybe I'm in the minority but maybe not as the silent majority are just that silent, although he goes to far I quite respect the fact that you know where you are with him and says it as it is. We need a Trump type to sort this country out.

I imagine you are in the minority.
And if you think Trump says it as it is do you agree that UK armed services never served on the frontline in Afghanistan alongside US armed services??

Moii - I suspect you are in the minority, or maybe you are just winding people up!

In fact we don’t know where we are with him and he certainly doesn’t say it as it is. He changes his mind daily, doesn’t always know what he is talking about (Iceland or Greenland) and lies incessantly. I refer you to yesterday’s comments about frontline troops.

The last thing we need is a trump-lite person leading this country! Starmer is doing as well as he can, all things considered. Just imagine if Fromage or Truss were in No 10.

Maybe stop watching GB News and reading the Daily Mail.

Maybe I'm in the minority but maybe not as the silent majority are just that silent, although he goes to far I quite respect the fact that you know where you are with him and says it as it is. We need a Trump type to sort this country out.

what are they actually doing in America to stop trump
One thing that thousands of comedians are doing is ridiculing him.

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