I never kiss babies or children, well anyone except DH, on the lips as I suffer badly from cold sores and would be horrified if I passed them on but lots of people do. I even know people who get cold sores who do it and if you point out you can pass it on even without an outbreak they can get quite unpleasant.
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Brooklyn Beckham
(205 Posts)This is a very lighthearted thread, with a sad undertone.
Just read a piece from Sunday Times, written by a journalist who interviewed Brooklyn.
It was after his marriage, but before he decimated his family, aimed at both his parents, online.
The article shows Brooklyn loving his parents, adoring his wife, and living his best life.
Yet, is he? He doesn’t appear to have any inclination to take paid work seriously, despite lots of encouragement and support from both his parents.
Though I don’t think I’d had thrust my children into the limelight in the way Victoria and David have done, there’s no question that they have been loving and supportive parents, have a strong work ethic and family is important to them. David in particular does plenty of charity work and Victoria sometimes smiles in public. 
Why then have Brooklyn and his wife Nicola become so hostile towards the Beckhams, and more importantly why are they playing this out so publicly?
Is this just a case of two horribly spoilt and over indulged, entitled young people or are David and Victoria terrible people and parents?
For me, I think it’s the former!
Anyone else think the same?
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No idea why you think I was directing anything at you.
Would you like to ask for your post to be removed, please?
Allira was your post meant for me or sazzl as I ve no idea
I only said I saw a photograph which I did it was all over the press I wasn’t making anything up
So not sure what you meant by trying to spread unfounded information
Allira
^It is the idea of a SW acting on gossip and making assumptions, followed by veiled accusations about anyone who questions that which is worrying.^
Yes, absolutely.
If, of course, sazz1 was a social worker 🤔
Very good point Allira.
It is the idea of a SW acting on gossip and making assumptions, followed by veiled accusations about anyone who questions that which is worrying.
Yes, absolutely.
If, of course, sazz1 was a social worker 🤔
sazz1
Bluebell
Isn't their daughter 14 years old?
Are you still trying to spread unfounded information?
Some of your posts could be construed as libellous.
sazz1
Bluebell
Isn't their daughter 14 years old?
Some people do, nothing sexual about it.
It's not what any of our family does but I have seen others do this. I remember a friend saying not to do it because, if a baby is kissed on the lips, it could catch a herpes virus which could be dangerous.
sazz1
Just to clarify my post
in the press 2 of the guests have said that she was grinding on her son and nuzzling his neck during the dance
Rest assured that the Beckhams would sue the papers if it wasn't true imo we shall see...
I personally find this inappropriate behaviour between adults in a mother son relationship at their sons wedding. Others on here may think it's OK.
The bride was said to run out crying at what was happening.
IMO that's not a nice thing to do to someone on their wedding day. I think it also said Brooklyn was crying too.
I can understand why he doesn't want contact with his parents, who, as he said, have tried to ruin his relationship with his now wife.
Others here may think it was just a fun dance and thing to do. We all have different opinions which is fine by me.
sazzl If what you suggest about child abuse is true, then I for one don't think it is ok, but (a) we don't know that it is true, and (b) that's not the point.
The point made above was that it is worrying that a retired SW would believe gossip (the press were not at the wedding) and based on that gossip be concerned about a family's behaviour towards their children. I am now also concerned that you are doubling down and implying that concern about believing rumours is akin to thinking that child abuse is ok.
I do not think that inappropriate behaviour in families is ok - far from it. I also don't think that believing a salacious description of a dance at a wedding and extrapolating from that that you would 'definitely wonder what went on throughout their childhood behind closed doors' is ok.
Nor is it ok to misrepresent posts about your jumping to conclusions and suggest that posters who question that think child abuse is ok. It isn't. It has nothing to do with whether we believe one account or another (personally, I have no idea what happened as I wasn't there, and nor were the press). It is the idea of a SW acting on gossip and making assumptions, followed by veiled accusations about anyone who questions that which is worrying.
My daughter met Adam Peaty through her work. According to her, he came across as a very nice guy.
*Fallingstar
In this respect is very similar to what happened with Harry and Meghan.*
Brooklyn Beckham and his American wife did meet Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. It is blatantly obvious that he took a page out of Harry’s book.
Bluebell
Isn't their daughter 14 years old?
“ There was no slutdropping, there was no black cat PVC, there was no Spice Girl action”
Quote from the DJ who put on the record they danced to.
He sad it was “a Latin thing”.
He said the bride had left in tears at the start of the dance. I can see the whole thing must have been excruciatingly embarrassing.
He also sad the dance was inappropriate and awkward if that is the way Brooklyn felt about it.
Kate1949
That's true Allira.
A distraction for us but devastating for David and Victoria who must be wondering where they went wrong.
That's true Allira.
Yes and much needed.
I can't believe I'm joining in this nonsense. 
It's a distraction from everything else that is happening, Kate1949.
Brooklyn is hurt and angry for whatever reason, some slight against his wife that has grown legs and walked? Who knows. However, imho he is now lashing out at his parents and manipulating the narrative to cast himself and his wife in the role of victims and his parents as the villains.
In this respect is very similar to what happened with Harry and Meghan. But Harry allegedly now wants to reconcile with his family. I imagine Brooklyn will also take this route in time. A shame that so much heartache and damage has to be done before this stage is reached.
One of the guests was in TV this morning. He said Brooklyn was called up on stage to dance. The DJ then said 'Now let's bring up the most beautiful woman in the room for the dance...... Victoria.' At which point Nicola ran out in tears. I don't blame her. I can't believe I'm joining in this nonsense. 
in the press 2 of the guests have said that she was grinding on her son and nuzzling his neck during the dance
There was a photo not long back of David kissing his daughter on the lips
I do think they have very different boundaries to many !
Actually the DJ playing the song has said there was nothing “slutty” going on,
Perhaps read some other reports too sazzl?
Sazzl, the difference seems to be more that not all of us believe what Brooklyn says about a number of his allegations. There are ‘recollections may vary’ issues here, as confirmed by independent individuals.
Your personal views are exactly that, personal. It still concerns me that you describe yourself as a retired sw, in thst capacity raising safeguarding concerns about what happened behind ‘closed doors’ in the Beckham household. I’m relieved you’re retired
Just to clarify my post
in the press 2 of the guests have said that she was grinding on her son and nuzzling his neck during the dance
Rest assured that the Beckhams would sue the papers if it wasn't true imo we shall see...
I personally find this inappropriate behaviour between adults in a mother son relationship at their sons wedding. Others on here may think it's OK.
The bride was said to run out crying at what was happening.
IMO that's not a nice thing to do to someone on their wedding day. I think it also said Brooklyn was crying too.
I can understand why he doesn't want contact with his parents, who, as he said, have tried to ruin his relationship with his now wife.
Others here may think it was just a fun dance and thing to do. We all have different opinions which is fine by me.
OldFrill
Allira
BlueBelle
I’d didn’t understand what it meant about trademarking the names do you mean no one can ever call them child by their names
How pretentiousNo, it means their names cannot be used by firms which want to cash in on their names to sell eg toys, cosmetics, clothes etc.
Safeguarding?The Beckham children cannot use their own names to market anything without Victoria's permission.
She took the trademarks out in 2017, an astute business move l imagine.
They were all under 18 then, a good parental move too.
I agree it was a good move OldFrill and being an astute business woman doesn't make you a bad mother.
Allira
BlueBelle
I’d didn’t understand what it meant about trademarking the names do you mean no one can ever call them child by their names
How pretentiousNo, it means their names cannot be used by firms which want to cash in on their names to sell eg toys, cosmetics, clothes etc.
Safeguarding?
The Beckham children cannot use their own names to market anything without Victoria's permission.
She took the trademarks out in 2017, an astute business move l imagine.
Crossed posts again, sorry.!!
Mind you, I had posted that a while ago so it's worth repeating.
And again 😀
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