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Are extra-marital affairs the answer?

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Cossy Wed 02-Sept-26 10:01:23

I spoke quite bluntly on a recent post, citing honestly around having an affair.

So I thought, in the spirit of being honest and open, I’d explain where my “views” come from.

I’m an only child, my mother married someone in her early 20’s that she met in the services, and they eloped.

As was the case, back in the day, she had to give up her “job” and be a service wife.

When based in Singapore, at 24, she gave birth to me. A year on, they relocated to Malaysia and a year after that Düsseldorf, in Germany.

By all accounts it was a very unhappy marriage, my biological father was abusive and also addicted to gambling.

Rather than continue her marriage, she took the very brave decision to return home to England, with me, when I was three years old and asked her parents to house us both, which they did.

She returned to Germany, with me, the following year, to ask my biological father for a divorce and to sort out visitations. He was dead, by suicide, in their army flat.

My mother returned with me to her parents, and remarried the following year to a man she’d known from both primary and secondary school and been friends with of part of a group. He subsequently adopted me.

They wanted more children, but my mother miscarried, following this she then had an ectopic pregnancy and was very unwell and subsequently had a full hysterectomy. Then they tried to adopt but were told they were too old (in early thirties).

So happy ever after…..

Mmm, not quite, my new Dad was absolutely amazing, a kind gentle and generous man, but he had one huge flaw, he was also charming and very good looking, sadly he had several affairs during their long marriage.

My mother knew of two. I didn’t really know of any of this, his job took him travelling at least 50% of his working life, and to be, until my early teens, he was the perfect husband and father.

My teens were horrendous, my mother was very angry most of the time, my dad calm and measured. I blamed my mum!

Of course I discovered around 16 that all the arguments were around his “affairs” and my mother was deeply distressed and unhappy.

They didn’t stay together for me, they stayed together because, despite my father’s appalling behaviour with other women, he truly loved my mother and me.

My mother was devastated by his death in 2016, when he was 80 and she cried every night until her death in 2022.

I never properly forgave my dad, whom I did love, for the misery and sadness he caused my mother due to these affairs, it was a very odd and strange marriage, but they stuck it out and it lasted over fifty years. They clearly loved each other and were great parents to me.

So these events have shaped my views around infidelity.

I still don’t understand, to this day, why my dear father, and in every other respective he was a decent man, continued to have affairs, and I guess I never will.

My own DH had a brief affair when our children were very young. I found out purely by accident and initially he denied it. I was utterly devastated and asked for a divorce. In turn he was devastated as he didn’t want to leave me or the children.

After much soul searching and talking, we decided not to end our marriage. It took a very very long time to repair the damage this affair caused and for years I never fully trusted him. However, we’ve been together now for 33 years and are pretty solid now. To the best of my knowledge he did not have any other affairs, I made it very clear he’d have to leave if this ever happened again.

Our lives are shaped by those things we experience and for me, infidelity is so soul destroying and damaging.

lovethepuppies Wed 02-Sept-26 10:11:37

Yes, it is, and it doesn't matter if the child affected is a grown adult either. I remember seeing a friend cry because her parents were divorcing when she was about 28, due to infidelity. It's always a choice. One should always do the decent thing and end the relationship if they feel the need to have someone else in their lives in that way.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 02-Sept-26 10:13:55

cossy I understand how you feel, being a daughter of a serial adulterer.

Oreo Wed 02-Sept-26 10:14:17

I can understand how you feel and how your Mum felt too!
Some men are serial cheaters all their lives but others may be tempted and fall only once.
If they cheat just the once it’s better if they are found out as it will be such a shock that their partner threatens divorce that it will never be repeated.
Infidelity in a marriage once known about is soul destroying as you say but pleased for you that you were able to carry on together and have a good marriage.😃

anna7 Wed 02-Sept-26 10:23:02

It mat be possible to end the relationship these days but certainly in the past, it was not always possible for a wife to end an unhappy marriage. Many women did not have the earning capacity they have these days as they often took a career break of several years to look after their children. Children still have to be housed and fed and there were not the after school clubs and holiday clubs there are these days. Not so easy to leave a marriage. Im not excusing infidelity but good people sometimes do unwise things.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 02-Sept-26 10:25:45

anna7 very true, women have as a rule been financially disadvantaged along with being primary caregivers for children.

kittylester Wed 02-Sept-26 10:28:18

It would certainly be, or have been, the end of my marriage.

Mollygo Wed 02-Sept-26 10:34:22

I watched as the wife of the man I worked for, was sent back by the priest to her abusive, adulterous husband.
She didn’t tell the children why she was trying to escape, but as they got older, they became more aware. Of the 5, the eldest and youngest children (boys) blamed their mother. The middle 3 (BGG) blamed their father.
For those who could and can get away and start a new life, it’s wonderful, but it’s not easy.

Cossy Wed 02-Sept-26 10:47:25

Thank you for your thoughts and understanding.

For me, I totally understand wanting to end an unhappy marriage, for any reason, especially around domestic abuse or infidelity.

I’m aware I have views around infidelity that are pretty biased based on my own personal experiences.

I just think, however hard it is, please be honest if you deceive the person you married. It’s hard and heartbreaking to do this, but it’s so much worse to carry on deceiving and lying to someone with whom you share both your life and children.

Children are never totally unaware of their parents behaviour and for many many years women have the rights in their marriages that they fought hard for and so richly deserve. flowers

MT62 Wed 02-Sept-26 10:47:34

I don’t blame you Cossy for your views. I am much the same.
Two previous partners, one who was abusive & serial cheater.
I woke up one morning & felt this would be the day I would leave him. He dropped me off at my parents, I got out of car & never looked back.

Second chap, fireman I was engaged to him. Everyone thought him salt of the earth. He was super generous, but there was just something I couldn’t put my finger on, about him.
Six months later, wedding booked & paid for (his money) as I had my own house to run.
I am afraid I looked in his Wallet, there in all its glory was a condom!
Then the next time I looked it was a different brand. There was also an impression of the shape of a condom pressed into the leather, so to me it was a regular thing.
I confronted him & he said he did use them but not for I thought.
So decided to let it go but keep a close eye out.
I know he went on a stag do abroad. Later I found a number written in eye pencil, phoned the number & sure enough some woman he had met.
So I bided my time, week before the wedding (I never bothered to buy a dress) I called it off.
The coward wanted me to ring the priest to tell him. I thought no you can tell the priest & your mother.
Tbh, it put me off men, was on my own for seven years.
Decided to go to a bikers reunion & met my lovely hubby, who is my rock.
He’s like me, calls a spade a spade.
We don’t do mind games.
I can count on one hand the amount of arguments we have had. I have never ever looked in his wallet I am glad to say.
Twenty odd years later still blissfully happy.

I do understand though, why woman stay with men like that, especially if there are kids in the picture.
My first relationship I was worn down trying to please him, almost to the point where I lost who I was.

MT62 Wed 02-Sept-26 10:56:13

Mollygo

I watched as the wife of the man I worked for, was sent back by the priest to her abusive, adulterous husband.
She didn’t tell the children why she was trying to escape, but as they got older, they became more aware. Of the 5, the eldest and youngest children (boys) blamed their mother. The middle 3 (BGG) blamed their father.
For those who could and can get away and start a new life, it’s wonderful, but it’s not easy.

You could be describing my aunt in Scotland.
Her husband was cheater & heavy drinker.
Priest was called for after threatening to leave him. Priest said she had ‘made her bed’. She did end up staying & having kids.
Unfortunately she ended up an alcoholic, dying in her forties 😞

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Sept-26 11:02:44

kittylester

It would certainly be, or have been, the end of my marriage.

Yes and mine.

I’m like that with everyone though, which is not a very good trait really.

Once someone looses my trust I can never trust them again, and I largely simply off load them as friend or colleague. I don’t make an issue of it. I simply let it slid away.

I would be like that in my marriage.

But last weekend we celebrated 58 years - so I guess he is a keeper😄