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Are dogs becoming the new smoking?

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M0nica Sat 31-Jan-26 17:15:24

Do you remember back in the 1970,80s, smokers could go anywhere and smoke anywhere, in hospitals. Some wards even had moking areas. Offices, shops, it didn't matter what the situation the smoker smoked. Thank goodness that has ended now,

But I am now beginning to feel like that about dogs. There seems to be no public place that people cannot take their dog, no matter how much other people may not like it.

Today we went out to lunch. We went to our local branch of The Lounge group. The lounge was full and as we waited for a table to clear, three tables of people walked out, all accompanied by dogs, 5 in all. I then saw the waitress picking up dog drinking bowls and putting them on the dog drinking bowl rack. later I saw another serving staff member stroke a dog with her hands near its mouth.

Staff clearly had had no guidance on touching dogs and serving food. More to the point. Assistance dogs accepted, what are dogs doing in places where food and drink is being sold?

In the past I seem to remember that people did not take dogs in to restaurants and to do so was considered bad form but now it seems to be accepted that dogs can go anywhere regardless of hygiene or the possibility that other people really do not want dogs sniffing around when they are eating.

I am not anti-dog, but I am curious about the way dogs have taken over from smoking as being an activity whose practioners expect to do/take something everywhere regardless of hygiene, other people'ss preferences, or fears. Why are dogs allowed in restaurants?

ViceVersa Sat 31-Jan-26 17:19:54

Here we go again...

lixy Sat 31-Jan-26 17:35:03

why are dogs allowed in restaurants?

No idea. The cynic in me thinks it is so because the hospitality industry needs as many customers as it can entice through the doors, and there are a lot of people who are out and about walking their dogs.

Happilyretired123 Sat 31-Jan-26 17:36:46

Because it’s good for the hospitality business

sodapop Sat 31-Jan-26 17:36:53

Indeed ViceVersa a subject people don't seem to tire of.

Oreo Sat 31-Jan-26 17:38:08

* lixy* I think you’re totally correct in that assumption.
I hate it, and I like dogs but their hair floats all over the place in restaurants and pubs and cafes.

MartavTaurus Sat 31-Jan-26 17:38:29

ViceVersa

Here we go again...

There was 18 pages on this subject two weeks ago.

Claretjan Sat 31-Jan-26 17:44:57

I'm not a huge dog fan but I am happy to look after our daughter's border collie. I don't mind dogs in pubs and cafes if they don't annoy anyone but on the odd occasion I bother to get dressed up to go to a nice restaurant I prefer it to be dog free. There seem to be more dogs allowed in eateries since Covid. Maybe to attract more custom?

ViceVersa Sat 31-Jan-26 17:48:36

MartavTaurus

ViceVersa

Here we go again...

There was 18 pages on this subject two weeks ago.

My point exactly. This thread is just going to rehash all those arguments - on both sides of the fence.

Dickens Sat 31-Jan-26 17:52:07

MartavTaurus

ViceVersa

Here we go again...

There was 18 pages on this subject two weeks ago.

... which would seem to indicate that it's a topic many are interested in - isn't that how it works?

There isn't an embargo on posters starting a thread on a matter that has already been discussed, witness the number of threads on Harry & Meghan, for example.

GoodAfternoonTea Sat 31-Jan-26 18:02:51

And they smelllllllll! Nice sstench assaulting my olefactory sense when I am trying to savour some good food. Don't tell me they are allowed in top class restaurants as well?! That would really be taking the dog biscuit!

fancythat Sat 31-Jan-26 18:04:37

I knew this thread may not go well.

Personally I was not on the last thread. Not even sure I saw it.

I like dogs.
Not in eating places though[thankfully around here I dont tend to see i]. At all. Though I dont go in restaurants a whole lot.

I like hygiene[hence I started a thread a couple of months ago about some takeaway places not using gloves[as it happens i was in a takeaway place this morning. Lady cleaning a stand. Not wearing gloves. It wouldnt have affected my hygeine personally, but even at home I often wear gloves. To protect my hands and not to contaminate myself with more germs than I need to].

fancythat Sat 31-Jan-26 18:05:57

fwiw, I watched a tv progeamme I think it was a few days ago. The lady said that nowadays, every 1 in 3 homes in the Uk has a dog.
I was surprised it was as high as that.

Granmarderby10 Sat 31-Jan-26 18:07:38

The reason dogs are now tolerated or even welcomed in places where they weren’t until fairly recently is because it is good for business. This is why many small shops eg book shops and many charity shops, will usually say yes.
Traditional “boozers” have allowed regulars/locals to bring dogs with them for donkeys years
Shopping centres will usually refuse entry even if you are just making a shortcut through to the other side but smaller high street shops might be less inclined to object if it encourages more footfall and spontaneous purchases. Same with some pubs-grub style premises during the day if they already welcome families with children. They need all the help they can get I suppose🤔

ROMILO Sat 31-Jan-26 18:09:33

MOnica
You have made it quite clear on previous threads, despite what you say about not being anti-dog, that due to some past trauma you really do not like dogs. Your choice. I think the general consensus from the previous thread was that dogs should not be allowed inside restaurants or food shops but it was allowable in outside areas. Why are we repeating this discussion. Make your feelings known to the restaurants you visit. Perhaps there would be a compromise to be made by having a no dogs area then everyone would be happy.

PernillaVanilla Sat 31-Jan-26 18:22:05

John Lewis allow dogs. I don’t take my dogs out shopping or to restaurants much but I am always happy to see other people’s. There is too much obsession about hygiene these days, as my grandma used to say “you’ve got to eat a peck of dirt before you die”.

merlotgran Sat 31-Jan-26 18:26:12

Most dogs are better behaved in restaurants than some children.

BlueBelle Sat 31-Jan-26 18:29:35

Whether Monica likes dogs or not is not the point I like dogs but I HATE having other peoples dogs in restaurants, cafes, coffee shops or the charity shop I work in.
People have humanised dogs they come in in pushchairs, one woman wears her dog round her neck (all the time), they growl at each other and moan cos they don’t really want to be there. They often smell depending on the type of dog. The puggy type ones, snuffle and snort their way round the shop One old lady bought a baby hat off me so she could keep her dogs ears warm!!!
Leave them at home in the warm.

BlueBelle Sat 31-Jan-26 18:31:52

They are not more hygienic than children Merlotgran I ve never seen a kid lick its own backside

Georgesgran Sat 31-Jan-26 18:32:10

Well said Merlot (and yes, I’ve got GCs).

Hospitality these days is a cut-throat business and if ‘dog parents’ are spending money, most establishments will welcome them. Our local garden centres have doggy areas set aside from regular seating.

Why not just go elsewhere if the dogs bother you? In Durham, a couple of the cafes are always packed with students, who occupy tables for hours, but spend very little. I give those a wide berth.

Iam64 Sat 31-Jan-26 18:45:56

MOnica , as others have pointed out (and I’m sure you aren’t aware ) the Dog Issue is a regular, divisive feature.
I’ll retreat my previous comments. I grew up with various dogs, in my 76 years, onky three of them have been years where I didn’t live with dogs.
I currently share my life with two, a spaniel and a Labrador. In the past I’ve had three and fostered for a specific breed charity. So there we have it, mad dog lady

I’m absolutely fed up with fur babies. They’re absolutely not. They’re domesticated (ish in some cases) they aren’t babies, children etc, they’re dogs. They need to be treated like animals, they need their breed characteristics responded to. They shiukd lie under the pub table, ignoring everything. They should learn to ignore other dogs and humans. This involves a novel idea for some, Training

Right, restorative glass of wine needed

JaneJudge Sat 31-Jan-26 18:46:16

I only read the title and agreed with you
My dog is able to STAY AT HOy

JaneJudge Sat 31-Jan-26 18:46:33

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Nightsky2 Sat 31-Jan-26 18:49:01

GoodAfternoonTea

And they smelllllllll! Nice sstench assaulting my olefactory sense when I am trying to savour some good food. Don't tell me they are allowed in top class restaurants as well?! That would really be taking the dog biscuit!

I’ve never seen a dog in the Ivy so you’re probably right GoodAfternoonTea smile

Norah Sat 31-Jan-26 19:00:47

I like dogs, I don't like or trust unknown dogs. I prefer no dogs near food where food is sold.

It's probable pub owners need to attract customers.