Princess Lilibet

Rosie51

Daddima

Daddima

Anniebach

Agree Allira. , the child is named after her grandmother who was cruel to the childs, mother

Can I ask when QE2 was cruel to the child’s mother?

Sorry, I’m confused. Wasn’t Diana the child’s grandmother?

Yes Queen Elizabeth was the child's great grandmother. I think Anniebach is referring to the various interviews where Meghan claimed the Royal family were cruel and controlling to her, and implied there was racism from them. Which would make you wonder why you'd use a private pet name for the Queen for your daughter.

So, she didn’t actually say that the Queen was cruel to her, rather she kept it as a vague reference to the institution?
I don’t think even she would have been so stupid as to accuse the Queen of cruelty! All their accusations were kept deliberately vague, so they could claim media distortion at a later date.

Daddima

Daddima

Anniebach

Agree Allira. , the child is named after her grandmother who was cruel to the childs, mother

Can I ask when QE2 was cruel to the child’s mother?

Sorry, I’m confused. Wasn’t Diana the child’s grandmother?

It's hard to think of Diana as a grandmother, isn't it!

But yes, of course she was and Lilibet's second name is Diana.
Not Doria, which is a very pretty name.

Sorry I meant great grandmother, thank you Rosie I was referring to the Oprah interview

Daddima

Daddima

Anniebach

Agree Allira. , the child is named after her grandmother who was cruel to the childs, mother

Can I ask when QE2 was cruel to the child’s mother?

Sorry, I’m confused. Wasn’t Diana the child’s grandmother?

Yes Queen Elizabeth was the child's great grandmother. I think Anniebach is referring to the various interviews where Meghan claimed the Royal family were cruel and controlling to her, and implied there was racism from them. Which would make you wonder why you'd use a private pet name for the Queen for your daughter.

Daddima

Anniebach

Agree Allira. , the child is named after her grandmother who was cruel to the childs, mother

Can I ask when QE2 was cruel to the child’s mother?

Sorry, I’m confused. Wasn’t Diana the child’s grandmother?

Anniebach

Agree Allira. , the child is named after her grandmother who was cruel to the childs, mother

Can I ask when QE2 was cruel to the child’s mother?

Mollygo

Daddima
I confirmed your right to hold a belief.
Where did I say you weren’t entitled to share it?

Sorry, but that’s what the tone of your reply led me to infer. I don’t think I, or anyone, needed confirmation of anyone’s right to hold a belief, so I apologise if I missed your point.

Agree Allira. , the child is named after her grandmother who was cruel to the childs, mother

Allira

vegansrock

I was flattered when one of my granddaughters was given my pet name. Why wouldn’t I be?

But I don't suppose her parents had publicly trashed your family in an interview which was broadcast in countries around the world.

And at exactly the time that your husband of 73 years was very ill indeed, subsequently dying one month later. If he knew what was happening he must have been extremely upset and anxious on behalf of his wife.

I'll say one thing for Meghan and Harry - they do have impeccable timing. Every time.

vegansrock

I was flattered when one of my granddaughters was given my pet name. Why wouldn’t I be?

But I don't suppose her parents had publicly trashed your family in an interview which was broadcast in countries around the world.

I was flattered when one of my granddaughters was given my pet name. Why wouldn’t I be?

Daddima
I confirmed your right to hold a belief.
Where did I say you weren’t entitled to share it?

Mollygo

^I don’t believe she would have said something like that in a million years.^
You're entitled to that belief is as much as anyone else is entitled to theirs Daddima.

Of course, we all understand that,but are you saying I shouldn’t share my belief?

I don’t believe she would have said something like that in a million years.
You're entitled to that belief is as much as anyone else is entitled to theirs Daddima.

She wouldn’t have said Balmoral and Sandringham were palaces

Tuliptree

Aveline

It was also reported that the Queen was not happy about her very personal private pet name being hijacked by that publicity hungry couple.

Well nobody owns their name, pet or otherwise. And Queen or not.

Over seventy years, and Queen Elizabeth never once made a personal comment about anything. She stuck to never complain, never explain, and I am certain that, even if something had displeased her, she would never have commented on it if there was the slightest chance it would have gone public.
It’s funny all these ‘sources’ are speaking out now she has died. The one about her name is quite specific, with her ‘reportedly’ saying, ‘ I don’t own the palaces ( not true, she owned Balmoral and Sandringham), all I own is my name ( do we ‘own’ our names?) and now they’ve taken that’. I don’t believe she would have said something like that in a million years.

Calendargirl that’s exactly right.

Calendargirl that is spot on.

With the benefit of hindsight, and 6 years having elapsed since they left, ……

If they had never slagged off the Royals and written a book, if they had decided on their business ventures and not relied on their family connections, if they had just kept lower profiles but appeared publicising them on less frequent occasions, their new ‘private but self funding’ lifestyles may have worked.

Oh, and if they had bought a less ostentatious property and employed fewer staff, and made less fuss about security and titles etc, it might, just might, have all worked out better.

But they didn’t.

I feel that all these press releases the Sussex pair make is in competition with the Wales.
The Wales put out a happy family shot and the Sussexes respond with the usual goey hollywood version.
It's the usual annoyance of a younger brother feeling 'bested' by the elder and making the point that he is still alive and kicking.

Yes, the general public in both the UK and the US are losing interest in Harry and family.
I hope they lose their titles when William becomes king.
It will be an interesting time, especially as the children may have reached teenagehood by them and ma have their own opinions on the family estrangement saga.

Of course they have to keep posting and making appearances. Their whole future income and way of life depends on their being “celebrities”. I don’t hold that against them, it’s no different to how a hist of other celebrities/influencers make their living.

Neither of them has any qualifications or experience to have a career of any kind and commercial/business ventures haven’t worked out, so their options are limited.

Since what they’ve gone for is the Martha Stewart sort of look, it’s inevitable that the children have to be involved in the wholesome ‘family’ back to nature image. Sunshine, greenery, fun and informality. Glorious unfettered hair.

Of course controlling what you put out there is different from the intrusion of the press taking snapshots. Preserving the image is vital if your living depends on it.

Sadgrandma

It’s very difficult to keep a young child’s hair tidy for five minutes as I well know with my DGD so I doubt that royal children are any different.
At least in this photo we can see part of her face which is unusual as they usually blank it out.
However, it is beyond me why they have to keep posting photos if they want to remain private - or do they!

Much has been made across the years about media appearances, photos, privacy etc etc

Just to clarify, if I may, using just my own opinion, there’s a world of difference in being able to choose when, where and how one chooses to make public appearances and release photos.

The RF are not celebrities, those especially born into the RF (as opposed to marrying in), have zero choice in these matters, to the point of harassment in some cases.

I remember so clearly an instance where Princess D took her “boys” ski-ing. She always tried to maintain a balanced relationship with the press and paparazzi and on this holiday had arranged some times designated for photos and a request to leave her and the boys alone to enjoy their holiday and privacy outside off these times.

Did the press do this? No, and I distinctly remember a clip, shown on TV of Princess D trying to eat a meal outside with W&H and getting very angry and literally storming towards the press and telling them, in no uncertain terms, to go away. All witnessed by her two children and other guests.

But do they actually ever think anything through?
Everything they do seems to be impulsive and never lands well....from big things like leaving the RF to little things like turning up at sporting events as a surprise *uninvited!
They do so need to take advice.

I agree Calendargirl. Very Disney. Better to have called her Elizabeth and then her nickname could have been Lili/Lilli.
For a couple so apparently privacy conscious it is strange they put any photos of their children in the public domain while they are still so young.