David and Tristan Tate and their “supporters”

Not sure if there’s a thread about this, so apologies if there is.

This thread is about my concerns around certain social media content, primarily following David Tate. which I believe is shaping young men’s minds in both the UK and America. I apologise for the length of this post but to edit the quotes might lose the meaning.

I found this piece online, from a police statement online via Facebook:

“LATEST | A year on from seizing almost £2.9 million in assets from renowned social media influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan, Devon and Cornwall Police is seeking to invest money in projects to support action on violence against women and girls.

In December 2024, Devon and Cornwall Police was successful in a civil forfeiture order against the Tate brothers which saw in excess of £2.9 million in assets and costs seized.

The order was granted after the force was successful in proving the brothers had both cheated the revenue and laundered money through bank accounts which were based in Devon.

The investigation focused on substantial earnings accrued between 2014 and 2022, during which time Westminster Magistrates Court heard no tax or VAT was paid on those funds.

Both the Tates also sought to hide the true nature of their funds by paying money through ‘front’ accounts. That represented criminal activity, and those earnings become proceeds of crime as a result.

Following the landmark ruling, more than £1 million of the seized funds has been returned to the force to spend locally.

A spokesman for Devon and Cornwall Police said: “Our work to seize the money from the Tate brothers was diligent and showed our commitment to not allowing criminality to operate in Devon and Cornwall.

“While a sum of the seized money has been returned to the treasury, a significant sum has come back to the force locally to reinvest.

“We have decided this money will be reinvested into projects which focus on our commitment to battle violence against women and girls and support our newly launched VAWG reduction strategy.”

The spokesman added: “A panel has been established to identify projects and initiatives in support of our communities.

“Throughout the coming months we intend to show our communities how these funds can make a difference and support our communities in taking a stand against those perpetrating abuse and putting those funds at the heart of victim support.”

My biggest issue around these two (vile) brothers is the amount of young male followers they amassed who are now (so called) influencers in their own right, spreading their appalling misogynistic rhetoric.

Louis Theroux has completed a documentary interviewing some of these “influencers” and I find the outcome quite shocking.

Here’s an extract from an interview with Theroux after his making of his documentary on the “manosphere”

I apologise in advance for both the length of this post and the language in the extract, but if horrifies me that this is content aimed at 18+ males, which of course is also reaching those under 18.


“At the other end are those in his programme who take their cue from the toxic creed of Andrew Tate, who with his brother Tristan is being investigated in connection with human trafficking. Theroux had wanted Tate to play a bigger role in the film, “because he’s kind of Exhibit A in the culture”. They had “extended back and forth” on text with Tate sending long voice notes. “I think part of him wanted to do it. He does do interviews,” Theroux says. He suspects Tate was ultimately nervous. “I suppose I should be flattered that he didn’t, in a weird way.”

Instead, he tails HSTikkyTokky (real name Harrison Sullivan), Ed Matthews, Sneako (Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy), as well as podcasters Myron Gaines and Justin Waller. They are proponents of “red pilling”, a term borrowed from The Matrix, claiming to “see the truth for what it is” (eg feminism is evil; a secret cabal runs the world, etc). There’s a segment in which Gaines tears apart young women on his Fresh and Fit show. “You’re huge, you’re not attractive and for you to behave in the way you do is a fucking embarrassment to society,” he tells one. “You fat fucking bitch, get the fuck out of my studio.”