tackling shoplifters according to Kemi Badenoch

Talks cheap, it costs nothing 🤨

How would we know whether or not they might be carrying knives?

Yes, she can say that easily but does she ever actually go into a shop?

I would and do tell the staff but wouldn’t confront the shoplifters, they’re often drug addicts.

I’d be too scared.
Sorry Kemi,

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d be too scared.
Sorry Kemi,

She's 6' apparently.
And quite formidable!
I'm not. 😀

Nobody should do this at all. What awful advice

JaneJudge

Nobody should do this at all. What awful advice

It just shows how out of touch she is with real life.

‘Community spirit’ innit? 🤔

Silly woman. Some have a go heros have been killed.

Another stupid suggestion No thank you from me

Allira

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d be too scared.
Sorry Kemi,

She's 6' apparently.
And quite formidable!
I'm not. 😀

She's actually about 5ft4, so won't be tackling many people (maybe some primary school children). It's empty words.

It was discussed on the Jeremy Vine show last week, and I caught part of the discussion. Basically the conclusion from the experts was that as you don’t know if the shoplifter is violent, has a knife or other weapon, you should not physically tackle them.

Kemi does herself no favours does she.

Shop lifting is at epidemic proportions. It needs police/retail to get together and work out a way of reducing, preventing theft. It doesn’t need members of the public feeling we ought to be front line preventative.

The store my DH work part time in advises staff not to confront shop lifters. They report the theft to the police but never find out if anyone has been arrested.

Mini moon, thst seems to be standard practice. People walk our with their weekly shop in a trolly

A few weeks ago I was in Poundland (now closed).
An attractive 20+ year old sauntered past the lady at the till. No intention of paying for her goods.
The lady on the till shouted “don’t come back here I will remember you”
The shoplifter nonchalantly flipped her the bird as she calmly left the store.
Un-bluddy-believable!
No deterrents now and they’re getting bolder ….

Exactly FGT
I was in our local pet store when a shoplifter picked up stack of very expensive frozen dog bones
A member of staff wrestled with him. Staff angry, shouting why should all these customers work to pay and you swan in, rob and sell down the pub
The thief eventually ran off shouting he’d be back
Staff member subsequently let go as he’d broken the management rule not to tackle shop lifters

Well, officers 'on the beat' wouldn't prevent the more aggressive shoplifter, or groups of them, but it would, I believe, go a long way to create that kind of environment that we once were used to; where it was quite normal to see police on the streets on a daily basis. In sufficient numbers, I think they would act as a deterrent.

But therein lies the rub - we are hardly likely to ever get those numbers of officers again.

Since 2010 there have been disastrous cuts to the police service, not to mention the cuts to the budgets due to Austerity.

The force warned that they would not be able to manage and that crime would escalate ultimately... and here we are.

Badenoch has no right to expect the public to tackle these shoplifters however strong or tall they might be. Even if shoplifters are not carrying a knife - and no one would know who was or wasn't - they could become violent. People have been killed by a single blow. I think she has a nerve to even suggest it!

A chap on the Jeremy Vine radio show on Friday was talking about how he witnessed a shoplifter running out of a Morrison’s store in Cornwall. He ran after the thief, got him in a headlock and matched him back into the store saying to the manager “Here he is. What do you want me to do with him?”
He was stunned when the manager told him he had to let the thief go as they weren’t allowed to hold him.

The story didn’t end there though as it appeared the good samaritan was on holiday staying in a nearby caravan park in Bude, and came across the thief who was staying at the same holiday park !

What I don’t understand is what has happened to the rights citizens have (or maybe had) where members of the public could ‘arrest’ someone they had witnessed committing a crime.
Is that not now the case?

twaddle

Allira

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d be too scared.
Sorry Kemi,

She's 6' apparently.
And quite formidable!
I'm not. 😀

She's actually about 5ft4, so won't be tackling many people (maybe some primary school children). It's empty words.

So why are there reports online of her being 6'?
🤔

Allira

twaddle

Allira

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’d be too scared.
Sorry Kemi,

She's 6' apparently.
And quite formidable!
I'm not. 😀

She's actually about 5ft4, so won't be tackling many people (maybe some primary school children). It's empty words.

So why are there reports online of her being 6'?
🤔

London Evening Standard reported:
'James McAlpine, 22, who stands at 7ft 2in, was pictured towering over his heroine the 5ft 4in leader Kemi Badenoch in Manchester.'
Frankly, you can see she's pretty short just by looking at her, so the 6ft claim must have spread around like Chinese whispers. It's clearly not the case.

I'm not sure how it could work but my solution would be for shop entry to be allowed only by swiping a valid bank card at the door. Brilliant eh?

Once in the shop everyone would be identifiable so not able to walk out with stolen items.

I'm afraid it really has come to that because we have such an epidemic of shoplifting.

What an interesting if draconian idea Chestnut

We did.. My husband tried with another chap to stop this guy getting out of our local M&S, while I dashed to a member of staff. He managed to get away but he was held in the entrance area for a long shot on store CTV.
We gave a statement to the manager who asked if we would be willing to give one to the police. That didn't happen and we don't know if the shoplifter was caught.