Where's CariadAgain? 🤔

BlueBelle

For those who seem to be in the know ! Why would BigLouis change her name? I don’t think there was ever any controversial posts from or about her or have I missed something
A lot of people have been concerned about her health it’s a bit harsh to leave them all hanging thinking she’s very poorly or worse and why ??

Exactly! Why not just come out and say what she is now calling herself instead of keeping us guessing. We have been quite concerned about her.

For those who seem to be in the know ! Why would BigLouis change her name? I don’t think there was ever any controversial posts from or about her or have I missed something
A lot of people have been concerned about her health it’s a bit harsh to leave them all hanging thinking she’s very poorly or worse and why ??

Allira

eazybee

I do remember the furore a few years ago when four members were banned; it was acknowledged and there were some grounds for it. There was a campaign and as far as I am aware those who wished to return were eventually allowed back.
It is still sad when people vanish without apparent reason.

As far as I remember, there were no real grounds because the person who managed to get them banned turned out to be a rather convincing troll who fooled many posters.

You’re not wrong there, and a lot more going on behind the scenes that members were aware of.
Plus the fact that that particular member had had 6 user names 🤷‍♀️

Scribbles

SpinDriftCoastal

I do miss biglouis. She was a voice for her generation.

I think you'll find she is back among us in feline form. 🐈

A clever way of describing her return Scribbkes!
I was just wondering whether to post ‘she’s back’ however you described it so much better!

Scribbles

SpinDriftCoastal

I do miss biglouis. She was a voice for her generation.

I think you'll find she is back among us in feline form. 🐈

I wondered that, but couldn't be sure

I think some are trigger happy and have a wish to control what other people are allowed to say, unfortunately.
I agree that there are those who think they should be in charge of what is said, and who try to police the boards as though they are prefects or something keeping the rest of us in line. I suspect they are more likely to report than others, but there's no way of telling.

We have seen posts from lurkers - people who don't even post - saying that they report people or posts they don't like. I think it would be very unfair if a contributor were banned because they had annoyed someone who doesn't bother to join in, but it may well have happened.

I know mods and admin don't have time to read everything, but sometimes it is important that they can tell when a post is the result of goading, exasperation or difficult personal circumstances leading to someone being snappy, as opposed to nastiness for the sake of it. If they are responding to one reported post it is very likely that mistakes will be made, with someone getting banned for a moment of irritation, when persistent goaders get away with it.

We are told that bannings follow negotiations with the banned poster, but I have been told by more than one banned poster that the first they knew was when they could neither post nor access PMs. Maybe different mods operate differently? Who knows.

There was one Thread recently, where Cariad had drawn a lot of flack. I wasn't following it closely but she sounded 'off form".
Perhaps the zappers should bear this in mind, when considering making a report.
We all have off days, which is understandable, given our vintage.

Scribbles I think you are spot on! I'm not the sharpest when it comes to posting styles, but the details about home life, work life, background etc. give it away.

SpinDriftCoastal

I do miss biglouis. She was a voice for her generation.

I think you'll find she is back among us in feline form. 🐈

ViceVersa

Do you think some people are a bit 'trigger happy' when it comes to reporting posts? I don't know - I've only ever reported the very obvious scam posts.

Yes, definitely so. I think some are trigger happy and have a wish to control what other people are allowed to say, unfortunately. We all have different tolerance levels, but only when somebody says something grossly out of order should they be reported in my opinion - and you should say you are reporting them, and why.

ViceVersa

Do you think some people are a bit 'trigger happy' when it comes to reporting posts? I don't know - I've only ever reported the very obvious scam posts.

... it has been said!

Possibly - maybe it's inevitable?

I have, on occasions, sat and steamed over a comment - especially if it's one that's snarky and directed at me, but I'm pleased to be able to say - I've never reported one. Not least because I know I've been quite cutting, or a bit of a smart-arse at times... so really I take the attitude that there's sometimes going to be heat in the kitchen and if it's too much, the best thing is to butt out and go do something constructive.

Anyway, I hope there's no health reason why CariadAgain isn't posting and that she's just taking a break. I've had a very rough past few months, emotionally and physically and GN has been a positive distraction for me when I've been feeling low, there's some very interesting topics and debates and, as I now spend a lot of time alone, GN is a way of communicating with the outside world.

growstuff hasn't been around. She was reported quite a lot at one time by I think maybe the same poster. I think she was banned.

Do you think some people are a bit 'trigger happy' when it comes to reporting posts? I don't know - I've only ever reported the very obvious scam posts.

It's a shame, as we do have a community here, however rickety it sometimes feels, and if someone were in need for some reason I do get the impression that posters would rally round if we could.

I agree with you Doodledog. Some on here are elderly, with health problems and, regardless of whether or not we've crossed swords with anyone, I think, given those circumstances, it's a shame that there is no way of knowing if they're OK - and if anyone on here can help - or whether they've been banned.

CariadAgain is not my favourite member of GN, but as you say - we are a community and, if the chips are down, it's a leveller and I believe most of us would like to help - even if it's only via a few solicitous words. I think there's a few of us who've experienced various health problems, and that's where grans can really help with advice, etc.

I assume that if a member has been banned - their PM facility is also removed?

Doodledog

I noticed that Cariadagain had disappeared a while ago, but don't remember an incident that would explain a banning. Having said that, bannings and suspensions on here have operated on a system that passeth all understanding in the several years I have been posting.

It's a shame, as we do have a community here, however rickety it sometimes feels, and if someone were in need for some reason I do get the impression that posters would rally round if we could. When we don't know what has happened or why it makes that difficult - in fact impossible.

I'm not sure there is an easy solution, as obviously HQ has to protect GN from prosecution if posters break the law, but someone being a bit of a pain is not illegal, and on the whole other posters can scroll past if they find someone's posts too annoying. Maybe an ignore button would be the answer? That would mean that there was no need to complain about anyone - we could just switch them off.

Failing that (and it's probably about as likely to happen as the fabled edit button) then instead of removing the PM facility altogether, maybe a form of 'Out Of Office' message could be on there. Either one that posters could set, saying they are away for X weeks, with or without a reason, or one from HQ saying that they won't be returning, or that they are away until X date in the event of a suspension. That way, we would know the score if we missed someone, and there would be no need for an announcement to the world at large on the boards.

I understand that HQ can't respond to requests to have people reinstated, as some posters are more 'noticeable' than others, so get more requests to bring them back. Also some have more vociferous friends, so it could never be fair to bring back some and not others because of requests. But equally, relying on reports from the ranks and banning people as a result of those reports is never going to be a fair system either. Some people never report, and others seem to do so as soon as someone disagrees with them, so being reported is always going to be an arbitrary thing. People have different tolerances, too - what is offensive to some is not to others, so much also depends on who is reading which threads.

This board does seem to ban more people than most, and at the same time it is one of the more moderate ones. Maybe the former leads to the latter, but at the same time, it means that a lot of our more 'interesting' members are lost, which is a shame.

The level of safety consciousness at Gransnet Admin is on the high side of the spectrum.

Dickens

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Maybe not banned, just temporarily suspended as can happen.

I'm sometimes puzzled by what is and what isn't banned because it doesn't seem quite consistent. I can only assume some decisions are taken because of comments being reported by numbers of people - but don't know if that is the case.

Unless a poster is breaking the law, I'm sort of in the camp that would rather the posts remain, even those that might ruffle my delicate feathers .

So if there's no way of contacting CariadAgain - there's no way of knowing if she's OK, which is a shame.

Same here, Dickens.

Cariad is a good writer and we need her.

BigLouis told us she was unwell.

What does Big Louis being a voice of her generation mean ? Aren’t we all in a similar generation !!!
Big Louis was not a well lady

I think we understand that - of course we do. But some posters report more than others (including those who never post), and that will bring the people they report to the attention of HQ.

And of course posters can take time out for whatever reason they choose. The point people are making, though, is that we don't know what has happened as we are not told when people are unable to do so themselves.

I was just about to post the same message. Glad it's not just me who misses some GNs.

Posters often don’t seem to understand that reporting doesn’t automatically cause deletions or banning.
If someone reports a poster merely ‘cos they disagree with them that won’t mean a deleted post.The mods on any forum have to agree that it needs to be removed for a good reason.
Sometimes posters vanish for a while or for good if they find a forum they prefer.

She does/did(?) have a very . . . specific way of posting 😀

Allira

nanna8

It makes you think of kids being put into detention this banning thing. I hope Cariad is ok,too.

It used to be known as the Norty Corner.

Some posters do return under different names; however, their style is usually unmistakable.

Perhaps CariadAgain will do the same and I imagine we'd soon realise 😀

Perhaps CariadAgain will do the same and I imagine we'd soon realise 😀
Oh definitely, I recognised her from her MoneySavingExpert forum days with the very first post I read!

I noticed that Cariadagain had disappeared a while ago, but don't remember an incident that would explain a banning. Having said that, bannings and suspensions on here have operated on a system that passeth all understanding in the several years I have been posting.

It's a shame, as we do have a community here, however rickety it sometimes feels, and if someone were in need for some reason I do get the impression that posters would rally round if we could. When we don't know what has happened or why it makes that difficult - in fact impossible.

I'm not sure there is an easy solution, as obviously HQ has to protect GN from prosecution if posters break the law, but someone being a bit of a pain is not illegal, and on the whole other posters can scroll past if they find someone's posts too annoying. Maybe an ignore button would be the answer? That would mean that there was no need to complain about anyone - we could just switch them off.

Failing that (and it's probably about as likely to happen as the fabled edit button) then instead of removing the PM facility altogether, maybe a form of 'Out Of Office' message could be on there. Either one that posters could set, saying they are away for X weeks, with or without a reason, or one from HQ saying that they won't be returning, or that they are away until X date in the event of a suspension. That way, we would know the score if we missed someone, and there would be no need for an announcement to the world at large on the boards.

I understand that HQ can't respond to requests to have people reinstated, as some posters are more 'noticeable' than others, so get more requests to bring them back. Also some have more vociferous friends, so it could never be fair to bring back some and not others because of requests. But equally, relying on reports from the ranks and banning people as a result of those reports is never going to be a fair system either. Some people never report, and others seem to do so as soon as someone disagrees with them, so being reported is always going to be an arbitrary thing. People have different tolerances, too - what is offensive to some is not to others, so much also depends on who is reading which threads.

This board does seem to ban more people than most, and at the same time it is one of the more moderate ones. Maybe the former leads to the latter, but at the same time, it means that a lot of our more 'interesting' members are lost, which is a shame.

We are all so different - the world, and Gransnet would be very different if we were all the same.

I hope it is the case that CariadAgain is on a break for her own reasons, rather than any alternative sad reason. If not well- I hope CraiafAgain feels better soon.

Clearly an unwell woman. Given her mentions of self -medication + rejection of medical experts , it would not be surprising if things went down hill .