Who are these people?

I can’t understand people who litter- take it ‘ bloody well home’.
A van in front of me yesterday, opened his window & threw out a large McDonalds bag, not sealed up, everything just spewed all over the road. I pipped my horn & he just gave me the finger 😳 oh for a camera in my car.

25Avalon

Yes somebody does pay for it to be collected - you and me in our Council Tax!

My late MIL regularly used to chuck litter onto the street as she maintained that she paid for somebody to collect it up.

Not a view I have ever endorsed.

Gwyllt

I don’t know if it the same now but when I lived near Delamare Forest in Cheshire. Noticed used to say “get a stick and flick “ I guess it was thought better to clear it off the paths and not have plastic left in the environment

make sure you pick up sticks in the middle - you don't know if it has already been used as a 'flick' 😱

In the days when I used to go running we frequented paths that wound through small copses of trees, and 'people' used to tie poo bags onto tree branches, just at eye level.
Who would do that? Lowlife is the only description.

MT62

I can’t understand people who litter- take it ‘ bloody well home’.
A van in front of me yesterday, opened his window & threw out a large McDonalds bag, not sealed up, everything just spewed all over the road. I pipped my horn & he just gave me the finger 😳 oh for a camera in my car.

I have to say that we noticed a vast increase in the amount of litter around our area after a McDonalds opened up here, so it seems that that is quite a common habit for some of their customers!

My local Macdonald’s is great for clearing their own carpark and it’s surroundings, but once cars leave the premises it’s just a free for all. There are 3 routes out and all littered for a mile or more.

I went for a walk a fortnight ago from my house to the top of my road along the one pavement and back along the other.

A distance in all of about 500 metres.

I took an old bucket, two plastic bags with a 15 litre capacity each and a long-handled gadget for picking things up with. Plus a pair of gardening gloves.

I filled both bags with paper and plastic rubbish, and the bucket with empty beer cans and cigarette butts. This took about three-quarters of an hour, but it was a nice sunny day.

Apart from feeling good about tidying up, the really nice thing is that since then, there has been practically no litter thrown down along our pavements.

Perhaps if we all, if we have the strenght, spent half-an-hour or three-quarters doing something similar there would be less rubbish about?

My area has so many dogs these days. my biggest bug is commercial dog walkers who use our park, let 7 excited off lead dogs out of their vans. The dogs of course toilet on our green field. I’ve never seen one of these people with a single used pooh bag,

The Pooh fairies are a group of retired volunteers who litter pick. They provide large plastic bags on metal ring supports for dog owners to use. The Entitled gang of course aren’t amongst the volunteers

Is this a newish problem? Or because it's Easter Hols and people are out and about just become a relevant topic?
I don't for one minute doubt the report, but there is quite a push going on at the moment, to reduce the amount of dogs and/or where they can be taken. IE cafes, restaurants etc.
In which case this story might just serve to garner support?
Nws, some people do behave in an intolerable fashion.
We had to make the outside of our front garden awkward for dog walkers by putting gravel and large stones instead of the lovely grass. It worked a bit but re educating owners to bag it was really a winner.
If I had a pound for the times my toddlers stood in dog muck before.....

Tisliz I don’t live there I was just commentating on what the notices said

The litterers aren't always who you think they are.

There is a lovely lad who lives in a road near us. He's helpful, courteous, always smiling, goes to a very upmarket local school, lovely house, lovely family. But he meets up with his mates in a local bus shelter in the evening, all with their fast food of some variety and they sit and smoke and drink and eat in the bus shelter. Then they stuff their leavings into the bars of the seats and leave them there. In the morning the bus shelter looks like squatters have lived there for a month.

When someone complained on the local facebook page about it they were told to stop whinging and complaining as they weren't doing any harm - probably by the parents.

It’s litter in general. We have a wide splay onto a main road. By the amount of litter I pick up there and what blows down folks stop and clear their car of rubbish Could never catch them as can’t see top of drive from the house I did find a £ 20 note there once but I don’t think it was a tip

Namsnanny

Is this a newish problem? Or because it's Easter Hols and people are out and about just become a relevant topic?
I don't for one minute doubt the report, but there is quite a push going on at the moment, to reduce the amount of dogs and/or where they can be taken. IE cafes, restaurants etc.
In which case this story might just serve to garner support?
Nws, some people do behave in an intolerable fashion.
We had to make the outside of our front garden awkward for dog walkers by putting gravel and large stones instead of the lovely grass. It worked a bit but re educating owners to bag it was really a winner.
If I had a pound for the times my toddlers stood in dog muck before.....

In which case this story might just serve to garner support?

It was on the main BBC News.
The Northumberland National Park Authority don't want to ban dogs, I'm sure, they are just frustrated at the people who would do this to a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

More and more people are filthy, disgusting and anti-social. There is no excuse.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg0wkglk2yo

Gwyllt

It’s litter in general. We have a wide splay onto a main road. By the amount of litter I pick up there and what blows down folks stop and clear their car of rubbish Could never catch them as can’t see top of drive from the house I did find a £ 20 note there once but I don’t think it was a tip

Gwyllt

Years ago one might have taken it to the local police station but under the circumstances not now, and I hope you spent it wisely 😁

AuntieE

I went for a walk a fortnight ago from my house to the top of my road along the one pavement and back along the other.

A distance in all of about 500 metres.

I took an old bucket, two plastic bags with a 15 litre capacity each and a long-handled gadget for picking things up with. Plus a pair of gardening gloves.

I filled both bags with paper and plastic rubbish, and the bucket with empty beer cans and cigarette butts. This took about three-quarters of an hour, but it was a nice sunny day.

Apart from feeling good about tidying up, the really nice thing is that since then, there has been practically no litter thrown down along our pavements.

Perhaps if we all, if we have the strenght, spent half-an-hour or three-quarters doing something similar there would be less rubbish about?

Perhaps if we all, if we have the strenght, spent half-an-hour or three-quarters doing something similar there would be less rubbish about?

I admire your effort but think the onus should be on those who dump their litter and waste to STOP doing it!

Admittedly, I don't know how this would work - I wish we could 'shame-and-name' such thoughtless and ignorant individuals.

It's something that needs instilling in young minds right from the start so that children grow up respecting their environment. When my son was about 5 I was with a friend and her son of the same age walking around one of the Pen Ponds in Richmond Park. My friend's son casually threw down a Kit-Kat wrapper and my son followed suit by chucking his sweet wrapper on the ground. We made them walk round the entire Pond picking up every scrap of litter (there wasn't a lot of it) and later explained the rationale behind the punishment. You have to start from an early age.

Dickens

AuntieE

I went for a walk a fortnight ago from my house to the top of my road along the one pavement and back along the other.

A distance in all of about 500 metres.

I took an old bucket, two plastic bags with a 15 litre capacity each and a long-handled gadget for picking things up with. Plus a pair of gardening gloves.

I filled both bags with paper and plastic rubbish, and the bucket with empty beer cans and cigarette butts. This took about three-quarters of an hour, but it was a nice sunny day.

Apart from feeling good about tidying up, the really nice thing is that since then, there has been practically no litter thrown down along our pavements.

Perhaps if we all, if we have the strenght, spent half-an-hour or three-quarters doing something similar there would be less rubbish about?

Perhaps if we all, if we have the strenght, spent half-an-hour or three-quarters doing something similar there would be less rubbish about?

I admire your effort but think the onus should be on those who dump their litter and waste to STOP doing it!

Admittedly, I don't know how this would work - I wish we could 'shame-and-name' such thoughtless and ignorant individuals.

It's something that needs instilling in young minds right from the start so that children grow up respecting their environment. When my son was about 5 I was with a friend and her son of the same age walking around one of the Pen Ponds in Richmond Park. My friend's son casually threw down a Kit-Kat wrapper and my son followed suit by chucking his sweet wrapper on the ground. We made them walk round the entire Pond picking up every scrap of litter (there wasn't a lot of it) and later explained the rationale behind the punishment. You have to start from an early age.

I agree Dickens.

If only these people could be rounded up and made to litter pick under supervision, being made to give up their leisure time for a month. They might think twice about dropping litter or poo bags again.

AuntieE people I know go out in groups litter picking, they retrieve bags and bags of other people's rubbish. I think they aren wonderful but they shouldn't have to do it.

It's strange, as I'm sure children are taught in schools not to drop litter and to care for the environment. DGD was a Litter and Environmental Monitor at primary school.

Why do some forget or ignore the lessons they learnt?

If only these people could be rounded up and made to litter pick under supervision, being made to give up their leisure time for a month. They might think twice about dropping litter or poo bags again.

Yes, that would be an appropriate punishment. People say "who do they think clears up after them" - the truth is that they probably don't even give it a second thought.

This would be a good way of concentrating their minds - trouble is, catching them at it...

We grew up with public service adds telling us to catch our germs in a handkerchief and take our litter home with us. My grandchildren are under similar instruction, as others say, it starts yiung

I do believe the level of poor manners (epitomised by the orange terror) and sense of entitlement is resulting in more selfish, entitled behaviour

Perhaps instead of dog training courses there should be owner training courses that are compulsory upon buying a dog.
Top of the list should be picking up poo and disposing of it considerately and next on the list should always leashing the dog in public areas or where it is stipulated that dogs should be leashed,
And the old ‘it’s ok my dog is friendly’ chestnut will not be a suitable defence.
Am not sure why obeying rules is so difficult for some people.

Am not sure why obeying rules is so difficult for some people.

Not sure but there seem to be new rules now eg 'No-one can tell me what to do' and 'I'm going to do what I want'.

Plus the belief that clearing up the mess they create is someone else's problem.

Why bother having rules if they are not enforced? Employ a person at peak times or random ones to enforce the rules and fine them all minimum of £250. Very easy with camera phones now to deny it. When was the last time, if ever, you heard if anyone fined for dropping litter, just wait outside McDonalds for an hour, for not complying with the law on dog fouling which includes hanging it on trees.

25Avalon

Carrying a bag of stinky dog poo is not very pleasant so you leave the bag in a “safe” place intending to return and pick it up later but you forget. That’s the most charitable explanation. BUT mostly it’s ignorant, thoughtless people although they were thoughtful enough to buy the bags in the first place! Why would you do that? It’s one of life’s inexplicable mysteries.

There's no smell or mess from a sealed full bag.

Dog owners buy carry and fill poo bags because law requires it. Failing to clean up dog mess in public areas can result in a £100 fixed penalty notice. If the fine is not paid, local authorities can prosecute, leading to a court fine of up to £1,000. Not having bags or being unaware the dog fouled is not a valid defence.

Those who don't dispose of their dogbags properly are just lazy slobs.

In my experience most sealed dog poo bags do still smell. Perhaps my dog’s poo and my DD’s dog’s poo are just extra smelly.

25Avalon

In my experience most sealed dog poo bags do still smell. Perhaps my dog’s poo and my DD’s dog’s poo are just extra smelly.

No matter, take it home.
It is the dog owner's responsibility.

I always do Allira. One day I saw someone in town who just ignored their dog pooing so I whipped out a poo bag ( all my pockets have dog poo bags in) and said “excuse me can I give you one of these?” Their excuse was they didn’t own the dog. They still picked up though!!