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infoman Tue 14-Apr-26 02:23:01

if they win power in the general election,will this change your stance on voting in the local elections??

twaddle Thu 16-Apr-26 15:24:05

ronib

My relative is retired and very relieved to be living away from the UK.
My news channels seem to be saying that the UK has the highest increase in income tax …. Casdon

Which news channel is this? And what is meant by increase? From what to what? And when?

ronib Thu 16-Apr-26 15:56:44

Uk tax burden as share of GDP / percentage point change 2024 to 2031 4.5 percent the highest. Canada will be minus 0.5 percent… for example.
The Telegraph…????

ronib Thu 16-Apr-26 16:37:59

Technically Labour has kept its tax promises as rates have not been raised but frozen tax thresholds have resulted in a higher tax burden for millions.
AI

Menopauselbitch Thu 16-Apr-26 16:55:45

Brexit must have been very powerful seeing as most of the rest of Europe are in the same situation.

Graphite Thu 16-Apr-26 16:59:42

How is the tax burden at a high when most of us are taxed so low

ifs.org.uk/articles/how-tax-burden-high-when-most-us-are-taxed-so-low

Menopauselbitch Thu 16-Apr-26 17:01:11

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

Good for you. I also will vote for them. I especially like the thought of paying tax on 20% rather than every 12%. As for the councils they inherited, they were already bankrupted by Labour.

twaddle Thu 16-Apr-26 17:02:55

What do you mean by paying tax on 20% rather than 12%?

twaddle Thu 16-Apr-26 17:05:24

ronib

Uk tax burden as share of GDP / percentage point change 2024 to 2031 4.5 percent the highest. Canada will be minus 0.5 percent… for example.
The Telegraph…????

But it's 2026. Nobody really knows how much tax will increase by 2031 - or what we'll get for the tax.

Casdon Thu 16-Apr-26 17:08:12

Get your facts right Menopauselbitch. Of the 10 councils won by Reform, eight were previously Tory led, two were Labour, and one of those two was a minority administration.

Menopauselbitch Thu 16-Apr-26 17:19:42

Granless

May be dicing with death here but personally I think Restore’s Rupert Lowe has a point.

x.com/rupertlowe10/status/2043947572671177020?s=46

Why would you think you were diving with death, surely all these ‘posters’ will welcome your opinion even if it differs from theirs ( ha ha) I like Rupert Lowe.

Menopauselbitch Thu 16-Apr-26 17:25:08

Allira

^Any you know what they say about Liberals. Scratch a Liberal and you get a Fascist^

Well, that's one I've never heard of!!
Sounds like a Reform soundbite rather than true.

It comes from the Black Panthers.

Menopauselbitch Thu 16-Apr-26 17:30:37

Maremia

But if Reform gets into power, we will have to start paying for our own
statins
blood pressure tablets
insulin
omeprozole
cancer drugs
Get the picture?

Proof? Because all I’ve heard them say is that the NHS will always be free at point of use but only for British citizens which is how I think it should be.

Wyllow3 Thu 16-Apr-26 17:32:15

Casdon

Get your facts right Menopauselbitch. Of the 10 councils won by Reform, eight were previously Tory led, two were Labour, and one of those two was a minority administration.

An answer to this?

Graphite Thu 16-Apr-26 17:43:57

One thing we can always rely on with GN is misinformation on a daily basis and Labour blamed for everything.

You are quote right, Casdon, about who was in of control of the councils that went to Reform last year.

Derbyshire
Reform UK gain from Conservative

Doncaster
Reform UK gain from Labour

Durham
Reform UK gain from no party majority

Kent
Reform UK gain from Conservative

Lancashire
Reform UK gain from Conservative

Lincolnshire
Reform UK gain from Conservative

North Northamptonshire
Reform UK gain from Conservative

Nottinghamshire
Reform UK gain from Conservative

Staffordshire
Reform UK gain from Conservative

West Northamptonshire
Reform UK gain from Conservative

As for the one council, Doncaster, that was in Labour control, much it’s financial problems were/are to do with the usual two things, the escalating cost of adult social and provision for children with SEND but also their core central government funding had decreased in real terms by 27% since 2010/11. And who came to power in 2010? That would be the Conservatives with their program of austerity.

But let's blame Labour anyway.

LizzieDrip Thu 16-Apr-26 17:55:30

Yes Menopauselbitch Nigel Farage uses ‘clever’ semantics when he says healthcare will be ‘free at the point of use’.

Of course, what he actually means is that at the point of accessing treatment you wouldn’t have to pay there and then … you wouldn’t have to stump up the cash or flash your credit card when you have a hip replacement.

What he omits to say is that treatment will only be available to those who have paid / are paying into a private healthcare plan.

So, yes treatment will be ‘free at the point of use’ … for those who have private healthcare insurance. For those who haven’t, either because they can’t afford it or they have pre-existing, chronic conditions that insurers won’t touch … there’s no treatment!

No interviewer ever drills into Farage’s use of semantics in this way! It’s the sort of language that scammers use all the time.

I don’t fall for it.

Meandrogrog Thu 16-Apr-26 18:08:00

LizzieDrip

Yes Menopauselbitch Nigel Farage uses ‘clever’ semantics when he says healthcare will be ‘free at the point of use’.

Of course, what he actually means is that at the point of accessing treatment you wouldn’t have to pay there and then … you wouldn’t have to stump up the cash or flash your credit card when you have a hip replacement.

What he omits to say is that treatment will only be available to those who have paid / are paying into a private healthcare plan.

So, yes treatment will be ‘free at the point of use’ … for those who have private healthcare insurance. For those who haven’t, either because they can’t afford it or they have pre-existing, chronic conditions that insurers won’t touch … there’s no treatment!

No interviewer ever drills into Farage’s use of semantics in this way! It’s the sort of language that scammers use all the time.

I don’t fall for it.

A quick Google search indicates that the NHS will remain free under Reform, but they are hoping to explore the use of the private sector more, under the NHS system so still free, which is already happening anyway as we can now choose to use private facilities under the NHS. This makes sense to me, as does limiting the use of the NHS to UK citizens. When I needed treatment abroad on holiday the hospital would not even take the drip out of my hand until the insurance company had paid up.


There seems to be a lot of hysteria around this,

Iam64 Thu 16-Apr-26 18:17:49

Someone asked upthread how we fill the nurse and doctor vacancies. Immediately, we continue employing them from other countries -
We expand nursing training. I’d say Diploma level two years then plenty of ongoing training.
We increase the number of doctors being trained

We fund nursing of doctor training. No nurse should graduate £70,000 I’m debt
No doctor should carry z£100.000 training debt

They commit to five years work in the nhs post qualification,

Graphite Thu 16-Apr-26 18:32:40

Farage has said many times that he thinks there will be another general election before 2029 even predicting one for next year. If he is so confident that Reform would win then he needs to be saying specifically what his plans are for the NHS. Health is at the top of most people’s list of what is most important to them.

Instead he’s wandering around the country flanked by his minders having hs picture taken rather than getting down to the hard work of policy planning.

Note that when with great fanfare he appointed his “shadow cabinet” he did not appoint a shadow health secretary

Try this. No official spokesperson is named for anything:

members.parliament.uk/spokespersons?PartyId=1036

According to party chair David Bull, speaking last October, he wrote the party’s health policy but it’s nowhere to be found on Reform’s website. It would be nice to see something I writing. Anyone see it here?

www.reformparty.uk/policies#policies-section

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 16-Apr-26 20:58:52

ronib

I did read it but reading doesn’t constitute blind acceptance. DAR

You hold yourself in too high esteem ronib my posts are for anyone who is interested not just you, and each person will make of it what they choose, just as you do. The problem is that some don't ever question there own views or think critically.

Allira Thu 16-Apr-26 21:27:43

Menopauselbitch

Allira

Any you know what they say about Liberals. Scratch a Liberal and you get a Fascist

Well, that's one I've never heard of!!
Sounds like a Reform soundbite rather than true.

It comes from the Black Panthers.

Are they a baseball team?

Jaxjacky Thu 16-Apr-26 21:36:02

Healthcare in Europe - 2025 - report stated there was a shortage of Doctors, Nurses and Midwives of 1.2 million across the EU. A combination of an ageing workforce, 18% of doctors over 65, working conditions, workload and MH struggles.
Most countries are increasingly relying on medical staff trained outside of the EU, some rural and poorer areas are ‘medical deserts’
It’s not just the UK.

Maremia Fri 17-Apr-26 07:06:35

The NHS may be free to access, under a Reform administration, but, if it is severely underfunded, there won't be enough left to go round, and so just like the folk in the US of A, we will be paying for our own treatments and prescriptions.
My proof?
Farage wants to emulate his hero Trump.
Trump has decimated Medicare.

DaisyAnneReturns Fri 17-Apr-26 07:11:33

"It’s not just the UK."

It's not Jaxjacky. The UK has always had its share of wingers though. It's often all the minorities at the extremes can do.

DaisyAnneReturns Fri 17-Apr-26 07:12:02

whingers!

Meandrogrog Fri 17-Apr-26 09:54:31

Maremia

The NHS may be free to access, under a Reform administration, but, if it is severely underfunded, there won't be enough left to go round, and so just like the folk in the US of A, we will be paying for our own treatments and prescriptions.
My proof?
Farage wants to emulate his hero Trump.
Trump has decimated Medicare.

That does not constitute proof!