A famous matador gored by bull!

I agree it should be banned Basgetti but does that excuse people saying good and putting emojis. Why rejoice in it. A man will never be the same again.

rafichagran

I agree it should be banned Basgetti but does that excuse people saying good and putting emojis. Why rejoice in it. A man will never be the same again.

Gloating over any suffering, to humans or animals, is abhorrent. And says a lot about the people who delight in the pain of others.

rafichagran
I agree it should be banned Basgetti but does that excuse people saying good and putting emojis. Why rejoice in it. A man will never be the same again.

Maggiemaybe
Gloating over any suffering, to humans or animals, is abhorrent. And says a lot about the people who delight in the pain of others.

It certainly does.

Maggiemaybe

rafichagran

I agree it should be banned Basgetti but does that excuse people saying good and putting emojis. Why rejoice in it. A man will never be the same again.

Gloating over any suffering, to humans or animals, is abhorrent. And says a lot about the people who delight in the pain of others.

I agree.

The matadot's views are not shared by me but the injury sounds dreadful. He is, however, recovering. I hope the bull is ok too.

Apparently 77% of Spanish citizens are against the practice of bull-fighting so why it continues I do not know.

Same for all the sports that still use animals in this country- horse racing, hunting, shooting and fishing etc. Are we nicer to our animals? More often there is no chance that they would injure us that badly...man v bull seems a bit better matched than man v fish.

Spain is a different country: they do things differently there. I remember some years ago in Cordoba on Easter Sunday the traditional procession pausing at the statue of Manoletti the famous billfighter.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Matador take note.

I should have written Manolete, not Manoletti.

It should never have happened. Cruel sport. How can anyone enjoy watching an animal being tortured and a man being mauled. It's beyond me.

rafichagran

I agree it should be banned Basgetti but does that excuse people saying good and putting emojis. Why rejoice in it. A man will never be the same again.

He knew the risks.

I deplore bull fighting.
However I am with rafichagran and Rosie. We all know the bull had no choice but the matador did ! That is no reason to revel in such a serious injury !!!! Rejoicing in the matadors pain is disgraceful.

Basgetti yes we know the matador knew the risks, so does a mountain climber, sky diver, or racing driver. I recognise none of those involve animal cruelty but would you dismiss serious injury or death to any of them with "they knew the risks"? If not why not? Does the animal cruelty aspect absolve everyone of common human decency?

Is this the incident where he was unloading the bulls ahead of the "fight"?

“Death in the Afternoon” by Ernest Hemingway is a forensic study of the culture of bullfighting. Fascinating as well as horrifying in many ways. Worth a read if you’re interested in other cultures rather than just dismissing them for being different from ours.

Macaydia

Why are matadors always male?

There are female matadors, but they struggle to get the recognition their male counterparts have.

Its a cultural thing, a spectacle watched by many, that should be stopped. How can anyone watch it? The Matadors know the risks and that Matador so badly damaged, is someone's son who is now paying the price. The poor bull had no chance.

Saying he knew the risks means you can celebrate his pain? Basgetti

Do you apply that to all sports or other walks of life?

It’s a hideous barbaric way to treat any. Rearuee. It should bebsnned

Rosie51

Basgetti yes we know the matador knew the risks, so does a mountain climber, sky diver, or racing driver. I recognise none of those involve animal cruelty but would you dismiss serious injury or death to any of them with "they knew the risks"? If not why not? Does the animal cruelty aspect absolve everyone of common human decency?

The difference is that none of those activities you mention involve deliberately inflicting cruelty on another being. So no, I have no sympathy whatsoever for matadors injured or killed in pursuit of their barbaric 'sport'. If someone tortured an animal in a similar way in this country, would people brush it aside as just 'tradition'?

Rafiachain you say I agree it should be banned Basgetti but does that excuse people saying good and putting emojis. Why rejoice in it. A man will never be the same again

I for one am glad the man will never be the same again that’s the risk he took and this time he lost how many bulls has he tormented, hurt and killed in his ‘career’ The bull had no choice. Perhaps there’s a tiny chance it might make someone else think and withdraw from this cruelest of cruel spectaculars IT IS NOT A SPORT, a sport is equal in nature
I cannot believe people go to watch an animal be goaded, stabbed and killed in the vilest of ways and anyone who defends this cruel spectacle is as bad as the matador because without supporters it would not exist.

HA HA HA! The bull did a brilliant job!

I agree BlueBelle and if I'm disgraceful because I have no sympathy for the Matador; so be it.

A medieval 'entertainment'. Revolting, in a country with so much art and culture to be proud of too! This must be abbhorent to most of the poputation of Spain surely?

I thought it was in Portugal?

Apparently the celebrated retired matador was gored minutes after stepping into the ring. He was at his first appearance after making a come-back, so perhaps he was out of practice and not dodging as nimbly as he used to.

He will be wishing he had stayed retired!