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Tuchel urges parents to let kids stay up for England game

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Sadgrandma Thu 02-Jul-26 10:05:57

So is football more important than schooling?

missdeke Sat 04-Jul-26 16:03:01

As someone who is totally uninterested in the football, I just wish there was something else to watch on tv. Today, there is football, cricket, motor racing, Rugby and Wimbledon, there are those among us that aren't interested in sport as a whole and we have no choice really. I'm glad I do like Tennis so I do have something I like to watch. That being said I really wish our own teams and individuals do well simply for their own sakes.

As for letting kids stay up to watch it, surely that is a matter for parents only, if they are happy then so be it, but as someone on the tv said the kids should still go to school the next day, tired or not. I remember staying up to watch Mohammed Ali fight, with my dad and his only stipulation was, you've still got to go to school.

Aveline Sat 04-Jul-26 15:42:10

We were on holiday so did watch the moon landing. It was such an anticlimax and really rather boring. We'd been big fans of Thunderbirds and Fireball XL5 so real rockets were just dull to us!

Hatcham Sat 04-Jul-26 14:51:18

I can remember being allowed to be late for school following the Moon landing in 69. That was, however, a once in a lifetime event. The World Cup is held every four years.

Aveline Sat 04-Jul-26 13:55:46

Wimblebore!!!

Jaxjacky Sat 04-Jul-26 13:53:05

Aveline

All I know is that my TV schedule is wrecked!angry

That’s Wimbledon for you 🙂

Aveline Sat 04-Jul-26 13:51:07

All I know is that my TV schedule is wrecked!angry

Usedtobeblonde Sat 04-Jul-26 12:57:53

Aveline but I’m sure you know it is taking place.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 04-Jul-26 12:29:29

MissAdventure

Frankly, I don't believe anyone doesn't know what the world cup is.
It reminds me if those people who only ever read the daily mail if it happens to be thrust upon them by a masked intruder. smile

That made me laugh out loud 😹😹😹

Aveline Sat 04-Jul-26 12:26:48

The world cup footballing competition is definitely beneath me! grin

ViceVersa Sat 04-Jul-26 12:21:49

MissAdventure

Frankly, I don't believe anyone doesn't know what the world cup is.
It reminds me if those people who only ever read the daily mail if it happens to be thrust upon them by a masked intruder. smile

I think some people like to profess their 'ignorance' of such matters as if it would otherwise be somehow beneath them.

Basgetti Sat 04-Jul-26 11:04:14

Graceless

Who's Tuchel?

Google is your friend 😁

Post Covid and the appalling way children were treated, I think many more parents are far more relaxed about such things.

MissAdventure Sat 04-Jul-26 10:35:28

Frankly, I don't believe anyone doesn't know what the world cup is.
It reminds me if those people who only ever read the daily mail if it happens to be thrust upon them by a masked intruder. smile

Usedtobeblonde Sat 04-Jul-26 10:29:31

I think you are misunderstanding me here NotSpaghetti
In the context of not knowing the World Cup is on I was referring to snobbish attitudes that such things are beneath one.
Heyho never mind.
I hope you now enjoy your television for a wide range of programmes, some even classed as light entertainment.

NotSpaghetti Sat 04-Jul-26 09:12:18

Usedtobeblonde we bought a TV after seeing the first episode of the Attenborough life trilogy series at my parent's house (early 1990 I think) .... so it does happen!

We were overwhelmed by this amazing programme and felt our family were missing something educationally very special.

We immediately bought a TV which lived in the study at the top of the house.

I can still remember the excitement of watching that one programme with my children at my parents' home on our way back ftom Southern Ireland - and thereafter watching the series at home.

NotSpaghetti Sat 04-Jul-26 08:54:06

I feel this year's set up is more brutal than in the past where the late-night sessions I believe were Friday or Saturday nights, allowing for sleep-ins for most. I've looked into this a bit as it seems very different this year and much more awkward than I can remember in the past. I thought I was misremembering but no. This year things are different.
This is what I've found:

Past tournaments, such as Brazil 2014 or USA 1994 were managed so that England’s prime matches were late-night but not "middle of the night" (usually 9.00pm or 10.00pm) so they finished before midnight.

The During the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, things were starting to shift. England's opening group match against Italy was at at 11:00pm UK time - but that was a Saturday so not so difficult. And 11pm is not really ad hard as 1am.

Historically, FIFA has forced play (even in brutal heat) just to accommodate European television schedules which was at that time the big draw for audiences. Europe therefore had lots of sway because of this. The 1970 and 1986 World Cups in Mexico, matches were played at noon local time - apparently because we wanted to see them at a "reasonable" hour. The safety of players wouldn't allow that now irrespective of revenue streams from advertising.

​To prevent matches from overlapping (which splits the global viewing audience and so hurts advertising revenue), this year they are forced to use the entire length of the day in order to pack all the teams in.

There are 16 more teams in the tournament this year going from 32-teams (there has been 32 since 1998) to 48 teams now. So it's gone from 64 games to 104. Squashing in 40 extra games is obviously difficult.

I'm sure there are other reasons - but these are the main ones I've found.
So yes, this year it IS different.

MartavTaurus Sat 04-Jul-26 07:54:08

Jaxjacky

I do hope there aren’t storms and delays as there were to a previous for two hours.

Then it won't be worth going back to bed before school/work!

Jaxjacky Sat 04-Jul-26 07:49:39

I do hope there aren’t storms and delays as there were to a previous for two hours.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 04-Jul-26 07:41:40

Calendargirl

Apparently, the change to an earlier time would have messed up Wimbledon!

Quelle horreur!

⚽️🎾

Nothing to do with Wimbledon, it was to do with the fans flights arriving in Mexico city tomorrow lunch time. They would have missed the game if the time had been brought forward, which would have been dreadful PR for FIFA, and the loss of $$$$

Usedtobeblonde Sat 04-Jul-26 07:33:59

I just can’t believe anyone who asks ,what is the World Cup?
They may not know the name of the manager of our national team but come on, it’s all over the news .
It reminds me of people in the 50’s who only bought a television set to watch documentaries and nature programmes.

Calendargirl Sat 04-Jul-26 07:25:20

Apparently, the change to an earlier time would have messed up Wimbledon!

Quelle horreur!

⚽️🎾

MartavTaurus Sat 04-Jul-26 06:50:30

It's turning into a right pig's breakfast with all this flip flopping! I've no idea whether later is better or worse for the actual team, but they must be feeling exhausted before they even start.
Onwards and upwards lads!

Misadventure you're right, we can carry on arguing for another 40 hours. 😂

SueDonim Sat 04-Jul-26 00:52:52

It’s back on at 1am now. confused

GoldenAge Sat 04-Jul-26 00:13:43

It's not a contest between football and education - football IS education. It teaches ideas of co-operation within a team, it shows how teamwork can bring results and if the team loses in a competition it teaches commiseration, it extends focus especially in neurodivergent children such that their memories expand, it teaches geography both nationally and internationally - I bet all our football-loving grandchildren know far more about other countries of the world and what their flags are and what languages they speak than we ever did with our concentration on the British Isles and Ancient Egypt (both from a western perspective), and it develops some national pride which I read a lot about on gransnet as something that young people don't seem to have these days. Let's also remember that staying up to watch this game reminds children if they didn't already grasp it that the world is round and has different time zones.

This is not a plea for folk to lighten up here, it's one to genuinely understand the role of what is actually our national sport in providing a conduit for real education. And for those children who have no interest at all there's always bed!

Cossy Fri 03-Jul-26 22:02:01

Sport is very important to lots of people and their families, world cups and Olympics come but once every four years, so one late night (or not) isn’t going to harm anyone.

Please do not worry! grin

Menopauselbitch Fri 03-Jul-26 21:53:31

Sadgrandma

So is football more important than schooling?

I find that quite ridiculous. I thinks it’s great, I remember being let stay up until 3 to see Robin Cousins skate in the Olympics. I was so excited and did it do my any harm? Of course not.