The top looks cheap. Even though it isn't. Looks as though this has been. a half hearted, ill thought out attempt to be on trend.
As they say nowadays.
LAST TWO LETTERS GAME 13 (Following game 12)
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Girlguiding has unveiled the first major redesign of its uniform range in more than 30 years, with the aim of allowing its members the "freedom to express themselves".
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dkez2g07po
So what do you think? Is it necessary, is it too expensive?
"The range is made up of 30 items of clothing, 15 accessories and neckerchiefs - with prices starting at £12 for a T-shirt."
This seems rather expensive and a lot of less well off families won't afford this, especially if they have two or more daughters. I think you can buy second hand uniforms at the moment, but these won't be available for ages with a new uniform.
The top looks cheap. Even though it isn't. Looks as though this has been. a half hearted, ill thought out attempt to be on trend.
As they say nowadays.
It is very hard to get a needle through the badge never mind the fabric of the garment! As a gran with working daughters and 6 grandchildren the sewing and mending come my way! I love doing it. Children are always impressed when a much loved item comes back with an embroidered flower or colourful heart where there used to be a hole!
You say the old style uniform ‘can still be worn’ but what an economic division that makes ‘ oh you ve still got the old uniform poor you’ and don’t imagine it doesn’t happen it always has and always will
Personally I m amazed at 30 items surely it needs to be just three or four ( trousers, top, hat )
We are now a nation of lunatics run by lunatics
To answer some points: the “30 items” refers to all the options across the full age range, 4 years to adults. Each age range has a couple of t shirt options (short/long sleeves) a hoody/sweatshirt type jumper, shorts or trousers. The rainbows and brownies get the option of a gillet. All sections have the option of a hat and a sash. For Rangers (14+) and adults there is a smart shirt option.
All you need to be “in uniform” is a t shirt (£12 for Brownies and £14 for Guides). There is no deadline to swap over to the new style. Most leaders have a box of second hand items and this will continue.
I’ve been a leader for more years than I care to remember and this new design (made after lots of input from girls and adult members) seems very practical and looks pretty good too.
With a smart skirt or trousers (we ask girls to wear their school ones) it will look smart when needed (most units attend just one or two parades each year) and is practical for all the other stuff- imagine hiking, climbing, sports, fire lighting, games, pioneering wearing their school ones old style “smart A line skirt” stiff blouse or little brown dress….
Surely we don’t expect girls and young women to dress like that anymore?
They get far too many badges these days!
My granddaughter joined Brownies for a while but had to stop due to travelling. During that time they gave her badges for the most ridiculous things:
- ice cream challenge (making an ice cream sundae)
- Unicorn Badge (activities based around unicorns!)
- making a pizza
- trip to Legoland (which she didn't attend)
- trip to a pantomime
- doing indoor curling
- celebrating the Queen's Jubilee
- King's Coronation
The most colourful and flashy badges were for just doing something which involved no achievement at all, whereas the proper challenge badges which had to be worked for were small and quite plain.
I've just looked at the new Brownie badges and they now have Happy Hanukkah, Happy Eid, Happy Diwali and Happy Easter in the shape of an EGG!
I don't agree with bringing religion into Girlguiding. It used to be Christian but if that is to be abolished then no religion should be allowed. Showing an egg is clearly not Christian so why are the others there?
They also have THREE badges for Halloween, make of that what you will. And a badge saying 'I can do anything' which is untrue and utter nonsense.
Brownie Badges on website
It looks to me like the badges are quite meaningless and just a money making venture.
No I dont expect the Brownies and Guides to wear the uniforms from the 70s. I just commented that I still have the little brown dresses...in a suitcase... and how cute they were.
One very very cold November they had to parade in their dresses and weren't allowed to wear warm tights!! Except I allowed my 2 to do so.
And it was on the news about that time that some Guides and Brownies suffered from hypothermia one year in a similar parade. Similarly underdressed.
So the new uniforms no doubt take into account our weather. Both hot and cold.
Chestnut- tabards have not been re-introduced for Rainbows, although the picture showing the shortsleeved rainbow t shirt (pink with striped sleeves) does look a bit like a tabard.
As for where badges should be displayed, that’s quite an old diagram you have shared. I haven’t had time to find it yet, but I’m sure there will be guidelines on the website as to how to display your badges on the new uniforms.
The badges on the website you link to are the “fun” badges, we usually use them in our units as prizes or rewards for something.
The “earned” badges have to be purchased via the local badge secretary or by a leader through the website, parents can’t (or shouldn’t) just buy them.
There have been “fun” badges around for a long time, there are also both official and unofficial extra challenge badges (Parliament week is an official one and a popular unofficial one made by a friend of mine was the Snowman challenge). Some are easier to earn than others
There are still the “interest badges” which you have to earn by completing the clauses.
Hope all this helps!
They can continue to wear the previous uniform until they no longer need it, but yes it will reduce the resale value of them. 30 items are to give girls choices - this is not new, nor is optional "bottoms"
The shorts bother me a bit - the current rainbow shorts are tight around the thighs, but these are open - not ideal for cartwheels and indeed not very fashionable.
As a leader, I will not be changing, as the new uniform short sleeves are far too short, but my shirt is not different enough to bother.
Trefoil changed recently and they are treating the items as bespoke, which means you cannot send them back if sizing does not fit.
Goldencity - I agree the badge layout I posted was old, as I said it was from a while back.
I'm afraid the 'fun badges' seem a bit pointless to me. The very fancy 'ice cream challenge' badge my granddaughter was given meant nothing to her. What kind of a challenge is it to make an ice cream sundae?
I feel a badge they work for has much more meaning and is seen as a real achievement. I remember my daughter working jolly hard for all her interest badges and very proudly displaying them down the arm of her Brownie dress. That was around 1990.
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