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So Boomer Grannies, have we gone backwards?

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Wyllow3 Tue 10-Nov-26 21:47:47

How so?

Agree, Hithere. Just watched this pathetic u tube one of Rees Moggs little "homilies" about How It All Went Wrong in the 1960's as we lost Our Moral Compass. (there are a number of them by this incredibly wealthy backward man), I sniff "Kinder, Kuche, Kirche"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySApPFZwUQ

fancythat Tue 10-Nov-26 21:41:50

I actually think it all backfired.

Hithere Tue 10-Nov-26 21:15:44

Forward but because of that certain % of the population is trying to reverse the progress

Wyllow3 Tue 10-Nov-26 21:13:41

valdali

No I think we've gone forwards. These cases wouldn't have been in the news & most wouldn't have come to court in the 70's.

Plus a lot of them were actually commiting their crimes 30, 40, 50 years ago.

Totally. I have no doubt on a huge scale. Remember rape wasn't banned in marriage til 1991 in the UK?

Women were too scared to report and put up and shut up. Felt they would be blamed.

Trad wife is all very well with lots of money and then free to do a little voluntary work and often have a cleaner.

It would drive me spare.

Cossy Tue 10-Nov-26 21:03:28

I’m afraid I agree with the OP and I think we’ve taken great strides forwards as women and are gradually being pushed, or attempted pushes, backwards by a few powerful men.

Across the last few years, for instance, there’s been increasingly more “trad-wives” both in the USA and here.

Too many highly vocal men, with power, still believe women belong in the bedroom and kitchen and not the boardroom.

valdali Tue 10-Nov-26 20:25:16

No I think we've gone forwards. These cases wouldn't have been in the news & most wouldn't have come to court in the 70's.

Plus a lot of them were actually commiting their crimes 30, 40, 50 years ago.

teabagwoman Tue 10-Nov-26 20:24:34

I’m not sure. I suspect that all these things went on when we were young but it was much easier to keep it out of the press and certainly out of the courts.

I came up against misogyny and dealt with abused wives and women who were seriously ill after backstreet abortions.

CanadianGran Tue 10-Nov-26 20:21:20

I don't think we have gone backwards at all, looking at the rights that we have now, but I think that some (many) men need to catch up, and some societies as well.

Also, we have come to realize that we cannot have it all, without compromising some things. We can't have the careers without giving up family time. Some women have a very supportive network to help, but others don't and sometimes that can hold us back.

It seems I hear so many young women complain that they do all the family support while partners expect them to earn a full time wage while still doing everything at home. Even if they are supportive, the women tend to have the mental load... the appointments, the family accounting, the holiday arranging etc.

We need to not only have the rights to more freedoms, but we need to teach the newer generations of men to accept and support these rights.

ferry23 Tue 10-Nov-26 20:06:19

When I left school in the late 60's we were on the cusp of the Women's Liberation movement really finding it's momentum. Times and attitudes were beginning to change - probably the first generation to think, act, dress and behave so radically differently from their parents.

We also lived through a cultural revolution. The Beatles, The Stones, Mary Quant, Vidal Sassoon, Biba et al. Whose Dad didn't think that these scruffy long-haired layabouts should be in the army!? Many a time I withstood the "you're not going out looking like that" admonishment. (Mainly mini skirts, hot pants and Eyelure false eyelashes grin)

And the pill - one of the greatest of all liberators.

But recent events - and the exposure of so many men being guilty of sexual abuse dating back to earlier times and the rise of quite sickening mysogony makes me wonder if we have gone 3 steps forward and two steps back?

An American President excusing his own revolting and demeaning comments as "locker room banter". A rich and powerful financier grooming and traficking young girls, usually from deprived backgrounds and drawing the rich, the powerful and the famous into his web of sickening behaviour.

Social media male "gurus" encouraging men to belittle and abuse women.

I cannot stop thinking about those women who have to stand up in crowded courtrooms and divulge the most intimate and humiliating details of their lives in order for justice to be served. It's very rare that men are subjected to such degrading scrutiny.

Am I alone in thinking this way?