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Why can I not give my grandchildren presents?

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Liverbird66 Wed 04-Nov-20 08:49:25

Hi I am looking for advice. My son has told me that they will be following his partners family tradition in respect of Christmas presents. Any presents bought for my Granddaughters will be from Santa, this includes presents from grandparents, Great grandparents, aunts and uncles. Nobody is allowed to put gifts under the tree to our girls. I also have a grandson with my older son, how can I watch him open all his presents from us all whilst my Granddaughters sit and watch with nothing from us. They are 2 and 7 months old at the moment but as they grow older they will wonder why we buy presents for our grandson and not them. My sons partner will not compromise with me on this.

PollyDolly Wed 04-Nov-20 15:05:50

At such a young age the children in question do not know what gift is actually from anyone. Their parents are simply trying to keep the Christmas magic alive and you should go along with their wishes. The time will come when you can pass them their gifts on Christmas Day and watch as they open them. Respect the parents wishes on this one, any other way will just confuse the children and giving them something in secret is underhand and so wrong.

pinkjj27 Wed 04-Nov-20 14:59:46

No your not unresonable.
My daughter has the same rule ,so Santa visits my house as well as theirs. They will figure it out when they older, all the older grands kids have, and their presents are still from Santa for the sake of younger ones. They have a stocking at mine too. They love it because they get two special days.

Summerlove Wed 04-Nov-20 14:54:46

ReadyMeals

This generation of young parents seem to be becoming control freaks. We've always had parents making rules for their kids, but it's only in the last couple of decades I've become aware of them thinking they can make rules for the rest of the family too. It's really just too cheeky for words to tell people how they can present their own gifts. Were we not strict enough with our kids that they are thinking THEY can control US now?

Perhaps, like in many families, their parents told them “when you are the parent, you can make all the rules, for now you listen to mine”.

Who expected them to actually listen ??

Caro57 Wed 04-Nov-20 13:39:47

I have a friend who had this (stupid) idea when her children were young. It irritated me intensely as the children never learned to say ‘thank you’ to anyone. It also teaches them it’s OK to lie in that parents say from FC - which is a lie!
She has since agreed it was stupid!
PS they are now the most delightful adults smile

cutteriss Wed 04-Nov-20 13:36:04

I always leave my Grandchildren gifts with Santa then they're there for them on Christmas day I don't need them to know they're from me it's about the magic of Father Christmas not me

Nanamar Wed 04-Nov-20 13:36:02

This reminds me of something that happened when I was little and still believed in Santa. For some reason, just before Christmas one year, I asked my mum why she and my dad didn’t get me gifts. The poor woman probably ran out quickly to get something that was from them and I recall exactly what it was - a new leotard and tights for my dance class. Children can be pretty smart and I’m guessing it will seem odd that other family members exchange gifts with one another yet the children only receive from Santa.

sparklingsilver28 Wed 04-Nov-20 13:20:23

I really do not understand this controlling stance. When my DD born she was the only child in a large much older family of my LH. What I realised from the start is my D would only have her GM and GAs for a few years and that they and she should enjoy those years as much as possible. There were of cause times when I thought them too indulgent but they loved her dearly and she has wonderful happy memories of her life with them. By the age of 10 all had died, and at 50 D still cherishes those years.

MissAdventure Wed 04-Nov-20 13:20:06

This seems to be a lot of fuss for two little children who won't know any different, frankly.

Dianehillbilly1957 Wed 04-Nov-20 13:15:57

When my children were little, they were told that Santa put little gifts into their stockings and that other gifts came from us, family and friends. That way they understood that we couldn't always afford to buy everything they asked for & therefore were not overly disappointed that 'Santa' hadn't let them down. Obviously we tried to grant their wishes. They never ever asked for outrageous things and appreciated what they did receive & have all grown up grounded hard working people..

Jac53 Wed 04-Nov-20 13:05:41

That's the way we always did it and I still remember the frisson of pleasure at the crackly stocking at the end of my bed.

Elusivebutterfly Wed 04-Nov-20 13:04:29

Children are quite young these days when they stop believing in Santa so this will stop being an issue then.

Iam64 Wed 04-Nov-20 13:02:05

Nannan2 grin

Hollycat Wed 04-Nov-20 13:00:57

Yes. In our family too. Stockings in the morning. The tree after dinner when everyone’s sitting down. Two children chosen to hand them out - one is Father Christmas and the other is his helper, Black Tom.

Nannan2 Wed 04-Nov-20 12:59:12

Maudib- no one said anything about about buying more than you can afford or getting into debt!What is the matter with you?Are you Martin Lewis's wife???

Hollycat Wed 04-Nov-20 12:57:10

We used to put a label on the presents “From Father Christmas, asked for by..........”

Nannan2 Wed 04-Nov-20 12:55:36

*Receiving.lol?

Mauddib Wed 04-Nov-20 12:36:09

I have to say I cannot believe you are even thinking that. At 2 and 7 months they will have no thoughts on the matter or even be aware. Also some of the replies are unbelievable. People seem to think that Christmas is about lots of presents and the best and biggest. Majority of people have forgotten what it is all about and it's become greed, greed and more greed. It should not matter what you get, how many you get, how expensive it is. Most kids these days have everything all they want all year round. They do not know the meaning any more. Therefore they grow up and their kids are taught the same bad attitude. Christmas has become a business only on how a company can fleece everyone for tat and charge exorbitant prices for rubbish. Christmas should be taken back a few steps to when kids were happy just to get a couple of presents and not always the best to beat what their friends get. This is why they have no idea of value and appreciation anymore.

Only give what you can afford, don't get anything on loans and credit cards unless you can pay them off straight away. The world would be a better place. Less greed and more care.

Nannan2 Wed 04-Nov-20 12:35:11

Yes im sure schools mention the 'giving' subject too- or 'giving& reveiving' and thanking and so on? Especially in faith schools.I dont think 'santa' is a big mention these days.

Copes283 Wed 04-Nov-20 12:33:37

I might be being a bit cynical here (comes with age!) , but is this so that no thank you letters have to be written? I'll just leave this here and wonder - do children write them anymore anyway?

crimpedhalo Wed 04-Nov-20 12:33:13

trisher

What about presents from other people? Don't you buy for the others in the family? Children should learn it isn't just about Santa bringing them things but about everyone thinking of others and what they would like. My GCs have stockings (huge things!) first thing on Christmas morning (which I send little things for) and then family presents from under the tree. Opening the presents and saying thankyou to the person who gave it is something every child should do. And as they grow older they should be giving things as well. One of the prized jobs in our family is dishing out the presents from under the tree.

This☝️sums up the whole concept of children learning the act of giving and receiving, and thanking. I remember it well.

Summerlove Wed 04-Nov-20 12:13:51

Lilyflower

Buy the children something very cheap and small to put under the tree and unwrap 'from Santa'. Then, when you appear, bring your own presents and give them to the little ones.

Your son and DIL are being, as they say on Mumsnet, 'CFs' where the 'C' stands for cheeky.

If you cannot get away with this you will only have a while to wait before the children become aware that 'Santa' is a benign fiction and someone else coughed up for the generous gifts.

Doing this will only strain relationships.

Please don’t try to be sneaky.

Ask your son all the questions you have calmly, then decide if you can work in those parameters. If you can’t, a larger discussion needs to be had.

In the end these are his children, abs he and his wife choose the traditions they want to follow.

Hithere Wed 04-Nov-20 12:09:51

This is such a small thing and the gc are only 2 years old one 7 months old - they certainly won't notice xmas yet.

This is what the parents want and they are the key for you to have access to your gc.

If you refuse to follow their guidelines, you may find yourself unable to buy any presents whatsoever in the future at all, not even from Santa. Thread carefully.

I grew up with my cousins getting presents on xmas eve and I didnt. I saw them open the presents and I had nothing to open.
Honestly, it was no big deal.

"Nobody is allowed to put gifts under the tree to our girls. I also have a grandson with my older son, how can I watch him open all his presents from"
The language you are using to refer to your gc is very telling: "our" girls" and "I have a grandson with my older son"

Nannan2 Wed 04-Nov-20 12:08:39

Riggie-??

ReadyMeals Wed 04-Nov-20 12:07:24

Riggie

So when her kids stop believing that Santa brings the presents does that mean they don't get anything??

Very good point!

Nannan2 Wed 04-Nov-20 12:07:14

I really don't see why her family (your D-in-L's) are carrying on this 'tradition' so long though and the whole family are going along with the pretence??) Surely it would be enough to say "lets see what santas brought' then also maybe put 'from santa, and nanna' or something on the gift? Or do it with their parents gifts only? Or do it just till 6/7 or some such.It seems like nonsense & maybe they will cease doing when D in L's parents or GP's pass on?have you asked her this? It seems strange she wont compromise.Might be a sign of trouble to come.?