Pandemic panic

GGMK3 What on earth has my comparison of the relative rates of The Black Death and the expert official forecasts (and so far proven) death rates of Corvid-19 got to do with whether people listen to experts or not.

Did you read my post too quickly and think I was saying that Corvid-19 was, or was likely to be as devastating as the Black Death. Actually I didn't. I have commented before on the dangers of a fevered imagination.

Yes, what Labaik said.

It isn't really about how many people will die etc. It's about the fact that many of those people that survive it will possibly still have to be hospitalised which would cripple the NHS. And, most of those 1-2 % have people that loved them and don't want them to die. I would imagine that, by the end of all this most of us will know of someone that has died. I know so many people over 60 with underlying health problems; and several young ones and I fear for their safety.

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lets get things in proportion. The Black Death killed a third of the population. Corona virus kills 1 - 2% of those affected. So far in the UK only about 200 have been affected.

Let's not. Let's listen to the people who are actually experts and not those who think they no it all when they know very little if anything.

Etheltbags, we have some filthy people in this country, it's unbelievable.

I'd rather hibernate than risk death. Look at the hordes of people in the supermarkets ( germs galore ) it looks like a smash and grab raid----I'd rather do without.

The latest death here was a man---home from Italy ! Brilliant !

I have seen people today in lidl picking up unwrapped bread and putting it into bags, using no tongs,I hate to think of the germs on the trolleys. Several people were coughing into their hands then pushing trolleys, my mother refused to cough into her sleeve and coughed into the air, she has copd . I asked her to wash her hands when getting home which she did but did not do the happy birthday bit, just a quick rinse, told me to piss off. My friend is coming up 83 goes out every night and we swim regularly will not stay in. How can the at risk groups be so selfish. Two people told me they would not self isolate even If told by a doctor. I would quite happily stay home until the virus is over, read books and watch tv, no probs

I wondered that too, EllanVannin

This is a sneaky virus that creeps up on you as those who think they're free of it right now could have had it " brewing " inside the body for 3 weeks until it shows itself.
I've always thought that it's been around longer than the experts have stated.

Saw Boris on the BBC News tonight visiting flood victims in Worcestershire. DH commented he was shaking hands with all and sundry, don’t know if he had used hand gel, assuming of course he had been able to get hold of any!

Alexa and anyone else interested, there’s a very good novel by Geraldine Brooks about Eyam. It’s called Year of Wonders.

Oddly enough, it was my book group’s choice at last month’s meeting - I promise we had absolutely no inkling of CV when we chose the title last year!

It was announced today by Anthony Fauci that the U.S. is beyond containment and tracking, he advised seniors to avoid crowds, long trips and cruise ships-

I was speaking to my elderly mum today, and it seems that all her equally-elderly friends are carrying on as normal - and that includes presenting at the doctor's surgery with flu-like symptoms!
Is there no happy medium in people's response to this health-threat?

Inexperienced volunteers are a help as long as they are intelligent enough to follow orders from the professionals. Some older women especially have domestic caring experience that is better than that of some young nurses.

I don't remember any diseases that were reported as much as this virus. I remember my mum when I was young telling me that there had been a T.B outbreak but I know very little about it. The only one I remember is the B.S.E and seeing the vets going to all the farms and many of the cattle had to be euthanized and people were infected with something that attacked the brain.
The H.I.V. virus (commonly known as AIDS) when the big scare for that went global was in the 80's but that was only passed by having direct contact with someone already infected and body fluids were passed to one another.

Well the figures continue to rise with the biggest jump so far announced today. Total 273. While the mortality percentage is small it projects to thousands if it continues at this rate. People are still saying it's just flu. The government needs an awareness campaign. They also need to tell people what their plans are so that it doesn't come as such a shock.

Alexa we were just talking about that as one of our DC was in the play.

lets get things in proportion. The Black Death killed a third of the population. Corona virus kills 1 - 2% of those affected. So far in the UK only about 200 have been affected.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35064071

Regarding Eyam's heroic self isolation

The death rate is 1 - 2%, the vast majority of them people with pre existent conditions, most of them elderly. Note my reversal of order of those two contra indicators.

I am far more worried about my DDiL, 25 years my junior, who has rheumatiod arthritis than I am for myself, free of any underlying conditions, on no medication and fit and active at present.

As in a previous post. All over 60 year old are at risk, owing to the lack of viable naive T cells. Those who have had healthy lives will stand more chance as their T cells may well have a bit more response. Telomeres are also made shorter due to much the same reasons as T cells becoming non-responsive ie unhealthy lifestyle. The whole thing is very complicated and there is no quick answer in spite of what the media are saying. Trouble is that the majority are gullible and that goes with not having the scientific knowledge. Don`t be taken in and maybe don`t listen to the news. You can only do your best

Labaik, I always have a bottle of colloidal silver spray. I have had a bottle handy for 20 odd years, I recently replaced it with a fresh bottle. I certainly don`t use it on a daily basis but eg I might give a sore on my leg a quick spray or on a cut or a quick spray if I get a sore throat. In the old days it was all about taking it orally by the tbs, I have never done that. I make no claims for it but would not be without it. I never go by media programmes, only my own knowledge and experience

The children's news programme was showing them how to wash their hands effectively. They put something on their hands that showed up under a light. The bits they missed seemed to be mainly around the nails. Not under the nails as you might expect but around the cuticle.

Colloidal silver is of no use fighting corona virus.

Read this: www.bbc.com/news/world-51735367

Riverwalk I do not believe that 70 year olds will be banned. Government and others have said that it is older people _with pre-existing conditions-, who are at risk, not all older people.