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Still impressed by BJ?

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Chestnut Thu 12-Mar-20 16:56:06

Unless you can have real lockdown as per China the closing of schools etc. will just cause general chaos due to the number of parents off work. Real lockdown cannot be achieved in this country because our built up areas are so close together and our road network so convoluted. We have a dense population in a small area. Other countries have more space to work with.

Callistemon Thu 12-Mar-20 16:34:42

Anathema, sorry

Callistemon Thu 12-Mar-20 16:34:14

Germany funds their health service differently and is not so much against private or charity funded medical care as many in the UK seem to be.

Their compulsory contribution to healthcare is ringfenced, as is the employer contribution and their public health scheme co-operates with private insurance companies,something which seems to be an absolute anametha to many if mentioned here.

GagaJo Thu 12-Mar-20 16:30:51

Well, that's strange Oopsminty, because lockdown is exactly what has stopped the virus in China.

Oopsminty Thu 12-Mar-20 16:28:18

Boris isn't just deciding what to do on a whim

Labour supporting commentators are bound to criticise

Jeremy Vine show has a virologist in most days.

He wasn't keen on locking down schools etc etc

Said it was pointless and a waste of time

silverlining48 Thu 12-Mar-20 16:19:17

I have just posted elsewhere that we in the UK are almost at the bottom of 35 european countries intensive bed availability. Where Germany has 31 beds per so many people, we have 6. That’s why our hospital beds are almost always full, leaving nothing fir emergencies such as this. Lucky old us.

Namsnanny Thu 12-Mar-20 16:04:33

Materialise Beds doctors medicine nurses ect

Namsnanny Thu 12-Mar-20 16:03:05

Well yes, unless he's going to make them suddenly materialise!

Chestnut Thu 12-Mar-20 15:56:36

Exactly HurdyGurdy. Boris doesn't make public health decisions, he draws information from a variety of experts in various medical and statistical fields then more experts come to a conclusion based on all the compiled information. It's altogether very complex. Boris isn't sitting around scratching his mop top and making decisions based on his own knowledge of virus control.

HurdyGurdy Thu 12-Mar-20 15:46:41

I dunno. We have to understand that whatever government is in power is privy to way more information than the general public and act accordingly. They may not always get it right, but on the whole, it is hoped that they are acting in what at the time seem like the best manner.

There are an awful lot of armchair experts on the internet, all contradicting each other with their own version of the "facts" and all with their view of what should be done, by whom, and when.

I've no time for politicians full stop, no matter what their political persuasion but I think we have to accept that the Prime Minister is taking advice from the actual experts in this, and acting accordingly.

Greymar Thu 12-Mar-20 15:43:20

Professor Mohamed Abu Hilal, writing from Brescia, north Italy, warned officials must prepare more beds, doctors and nurses in light of the fiasco happening in Italy.

Is he also ruminating?

Namsnanny Thu 12-Mar-20 15:34:29

Too much rumination

What can be gained?

Greymar Thu 12-Mar-20 15:23:09

There were no strategies for protecting the vulnerable and there had been a failure to engage the public. “We have a superficial prime minister who has got no grasp of public health,” Ashton said. “Our lot are behaving like 19th-century colonialists playing a five-day game of cricket.

From John Ashton.