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Still impressed by BJ?

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Greymar Thu 12-Mar-20 15:23:09

There were no strategies for protecting the vulnerable and there had been a failure to engage the public. “We have a superficial prime minister who has got no grasp of public health,” Ashton said. “Our lot are behaving like 19th-century colonialists playing a five-day game of cricket.

From John Ashton.

Witzend Sat 14-Mar-20 09:43:52

I’m no fan of Boris, but I can’t help wondering whether Corbyn would have been any better in a crisis.

Not exactly renowned for firm decisions on difficult subjects, is he? He sat on the fence for so long over Brexit, I dare say he’s still got splinters in his a*se.

Callistemon Thu 12-Mar-20 22:37:44

sodapop thank you

lemongrove Thu 12-Mar-20 22:28:10

POGS posts on this subject are definitely worth a read.
They cut through all the cheap political point scoring from Disgruntled LP voters.

Time for some posters to give it up, the UK government is getting things right, yes, including Johnson!
The NHS is planning various strategies to cope, including expanding ICU by using operating theatres if necessary, beds will be found for those who need them.

sodapop Thu 12-Mar-20 20:34:49

Dilyn is the little dog they rescued Callistemon

DoraMarr Thu 12-Mar-20 20:33:33

Pogs’s post on this subject is worth a read.

Hetty58 Thu 12-Mar-20 20:28:29

The lesser of two evils? Marvellous!

Greymar Thu 12-Mar-20 20:19:13

We are to be thankful he is not like Trump? Unbelievable.

SirChenjin Thu 12-Mar-20 20:17:17

No I don’t - I don’t share details of which department I work in, I feel it’s potentially identifying information. I have a close friend who works in ICU and she shares your concerns.

Callistemon Thu 12-Mar-20 20:12:15

Do you work in ICU, SirChenjin?
I have two nieces who work in ICU (nurses) and another who is a consultant in infectious diseases.

I am quite worried about them, two have young children, one is pregnant.

SirChenjin Thu 12-Mar-20 20:08:26

Did that these experts actually say “take it on the chin” too?

Opal Thu 12-Mar-20 20:07:23

Never mind, eh - we’ll just follow our Great Leader’s fantastic advice and take it on the chin

Well, if our "great leader" is following the advice of the experts, I don't see why you are criticising him SCJ. Unless you think you know better than the experts? Or is it just because it happens to be BJ? No surprise there then.

SirChenjin Thu 12-Mar-20 18:31:49

Is the penny finally dropping perhaps?

Riverwalk Thu 12-Mar-20 18:31:40

I'm no fan of Bozo but I'm glad he's following the experts advice, unlike Trump who's making it up as he goes along.

I'm in agreement with our experts so far.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 12-Mar-20 18:27:53

I am not a virologist so I have to trust the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientist.

I watched the whole of the broadcast from No 10, it was the first time that I have seen the PM so serious.

merlotgran Thu 12-Mar-20 18:18:57

I wouldn't call it waffle!

I'm concerned that schools will remain open. Teachers will be at risk and grandparents, who do after school child-care, will be in the firing line.

SirChenjin Thu 12-Mar-20 18:18:54

This is the result of years of underinvestment in public services by the Tories and everyone who voted for them must shoulder some of the responsibility for what we’re witnessing now.

What we’re trying to do now is flattening the bell curve to try and keep cases to a level that doesn’t exceed healthcare capacity - and there’s nowhere near enough being done to limit social contact and the resulting spread of the virus. Never mind, eh - we’ll just follow our Great Leader’s fantastic advice and take it on the chin.

Ellianne Thu 12-Mar-20 18:14:15

Are you for real Callistemon? Dillon is the PM's dog. He was paraded about with a union jack bandanna during Brexit. I think he is a rescued Jack Russell.

Pittcity Thu 12-Mar-20 18:09:24

They cancelled "Pointless" so that he could give us some more "waffle".... I'm not a fan.

Callistemon Thu 12-Mar-20 18:05:20

Who is Dilyn?

Dinahmo Thu 12-Mar-20 18:04:44

The government has said that they are putting plans in place to help with corona virus and will be spending millions on doing this. The PM said yesterday that this would include increasing the number of ventilators. Indeed they would do whatever is necessary. But where are they going to find the extra staff, where are the ventilators going to be found? They may well have shaken the magic money tree but they can't suddenly find more medical staff. The chairman of the NHS Federation said on Politics Live today that there are 100,000 vacancies in the NHS at the moment.

sodapop Thu 12-Mar-20 17:46:10

No not now I've heard he may get rid of Dilyn because he is a sickly dog.

vegansrock Thu 12-Mar-20 17:45:45

There is this myth that the NHS is so much better than healthcare anywhere else - not true folks it’s struggling and with a huge rise in pneumonia cases brought on by this virus it will definitely not cope.

Greymar Thu 12-Mar-20 17:41:11

My original post has nothing to do with being a Labour supporter. The writer of the piece suggests we need a front man/woman, a trusted voice giving clear information. Would this not be the remit of the PM?

Daisymae Thu 12-Mar-20 17:13:07

How can we be reassured when Johnson says NHS is ready and can cope when doctors say they can't? In fact it wasn't coping before all this kicked off. Why are so many other countries shutting down???

grannyactivist Thu 12-Mar-20 17:05:54

I have a daughter who is an ICU nurse and has a specialism in ECMO - if only she hadn't moved to New Zealand because she felt she could no longer work safely in the UK she would be a gold plated asset just now.

The reality is that there are not enough hospital beds, not enough equipment, not enough staff - and most certainly not enough staff who are ICU/ECMO trained. Also when thinking about ICU staff, often overlooked are the cleaners, whose role is pivotal to good hygiene.

I would really like to be reassured that there are realistic, detailed, written plans to address these issues.