SIL ignoring 14 day reommended isolation rules

I’ve given up with the amount of selfishness i’ve encountered including my own husband. He wanted to meet his nephew Thursday for a drink in London. I have respiratory problems so high risk. I was very hurt by that. He didn’t go as he is now working from home. The other instance was encounter with a young person in m&s. She stood close behind and her and another woman told me if I was that worried I shouldn’t be out. Yes, well no delivery slots make it an impossibility as my husband doesn’t drive. I don’t need to venture out apart from dog walking so fingers crossed.

My neighbour has just returned to Canada from a trip with his family to the Dominican Republic. The government has ordered everyone to self isolate for 14 days. He is a prison guard and the same government has ordered him back to work as an essential worker provided he has no symptoms!Seems rules do not apply to everyone.

People are being so selfish and stupid. My DD had a big row online with the landlord and landlady at the pub next door to the place where she works. They advertised a big "last night" party. My DD told them that it was the exact opposite of government advice and they were encouraging people to spread the virus. Their defence was that they were closing at midnight. They became abusive and then their patrons piled in. She was sneered at by all of them. After trying to explain repeatedly how transmission works, she decided they were too stupid and she gave up.

And he is a keyworker. Keyworkers are being told to go to work if well

We are now the place that people are to isolate if they arrive FROM here not TO here

Because thats outdated advice. We are no longer lower risk than mainlsnd europe. There is no longer any point in differentiating.

The current advice is social distance for everyone. Self isolate if symptomatic.

Islands are different with different challenges

I just phoned my friend who has a chronically sick husband. She told me she couldn't talk long as her son was due to call. He is a pharmacist in an area where there are quite a few cases! I upset her by calling her an idiot!

twiceasnice ... is your gdaughter feeling g any better?

My son returned from Spain 10 days ago. Plane was met at the airport by a team of officials who spoke to every one of them individually & told them they MUST self- isolate for 2 weeks.
Your son in law is extremely selfish and irresponsible to continue working without an isolation period of 2 weeks.

well, they won't be able to because the pub should be shut now.

Unfriend him on FB! Or snooze him if you don't want to annoy him by unfriending. He would annoy me too.

I’ve a cousin who thinks it’s macho to gather a load of menfolk around in a pub and because they are fundraisers they’re saying the virus won’t beat us and it’s okay to hug and meet up. Give me strength if I see him on Facebook one more time with his arms around his buddies. I’m not going to miss him and hit the wall what am I supposed to do/ say to him he’s at risk too because of his health issues silly silly man

In Spain you can't even go out for a drive as you will be asked for your reasons to be out, and unless you are prepared to lie to the police, you will be forced to return home. Do we really want that here?

It does depend what he is doing, if he is transporting food or urgent medical supplies, then he might feel it is his duty to continue, as medical staff have to do, but he needs to take every possible precaution, and strip off and shower when he comes in, whilst you wipe the door knobs! At the first sign of any symptoms, shut yourself away or tell him to stay elsewhere.

Delivery drivers are being given concessions re work hours. If SIL has been in contact with a virus case he should be isolating though. Sounds like it would be a lost cause trying to tell him though. Coming back from Spain, unfortunately we have no enforceable isolation procedures yet, not like the ones from China and cruise ship etc.

He is a selfish needs to be reported , he is a danger to others

Does he work for a company or is he self employed? If he works for a company then report him to the company bosses. If he is self employed I don't know what you can do. But keep yourself safe. If you refused to have any contact with your family would that make your DD more determined to stop him?

But problem with that is- if you all have differing kinds,due to allergies for example,( im lactose free,my GC some are dairy free) my son will only drink whole milk due to ASD issues) then its a different ball game.same with certain foods we buy,i get with lactose free when i can so buying 'a few' at a time while i can get them isnt 'stocking up' its normal,same goes for the dairy free& soya free stuff for my grandchildren.or else my daughters have to go out to get them again in 3 days time! Theres only certain foods my son will eat due to 'textures' being a problem for my son,so i get a few while im there,but none of this is taken into consideration by shops- im in vulnerable category,as are sons,so i dont want to go shopping every few days,nor do my daughters,but what else can we do?

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Supermarkets ARE now restricting goods- my daughter said in asda yesterday a woman in queue had about 6 milks ( of differing kinds,whole, semi,etc) and she was only allowed 4- the security guys took others away.

Apart from making your very reasonable feelings very clear to you SIL I don't think there is much you can do.

Yes, you could report the fact that his wife is ill - do you know yet with what?

Doing so will cause very bad feeling in the family. After all your DD could have reported him herself, but obviously doesn't want to, or see the need.

I would wait until your DD has a diagnosis - if it turns out to be the corona virus then I am sure her doctor will insist on the entire household being isolated.

We already are food rationing,in a way,most supermarkets have clamped down on people buying more than 3 items(2 in some cases) of some items.

Jaxie - Sorry don't know how to highlight- you can read The Guardian on line (free) or pay and sign up for vouchers and get a local newsagent to deliver. Haven't read other responses yet, so sorry if someone's already suggested this. Good luck.

No one NEEDS the guardian.you can read it online.

How about food rationing same as in the war. it might be something we have to consider in the future.

minnow your right, it’s naive of us to think that most people act for the greater good. They have to be forced to do the right thing.
Supermarket tills restrict Paracetomol with no problems, surely they can do the same with all other goods.

Unfortunately we either need martial law or a huge jump in deaths to change behaviours. If the Government would say, if we don’t get things under control millions will die, then people might pay a bit more attention. At the moment we are in the situation where half population are thinking we’re all doomed and the other think it’s a storm in a teacup. From day one, the supermarket bosses should have told their store managers to restrict items, instead of rubbing their hands in glee, while whistling “We’re in the money”.