Is it naive to think people will do the right thing?

Posted too soon! I have two doctors and some nurses in my family and I fear for their safety

Seems to be inevitable that we will go into lockdown due to the irresponsible behaviour of many people.

We have been strongly advised to self isolate for some groups or to use social distancing for others but those, mostly in the latter group, are ignoring this so the only option is to force them to do it.

We will all be in lockdown thanks to those who refuse to comply, for their own sake and others.

I have 2 doctors and

Whitewave I'm glad about that. I think the measures are needed, but I was very uncomfortable about them staying long-term after the crisis is (hopefully) over.

Update on my post 13.17

MPs have tabled an amendment which stipulates that the draconian powers the government is awarding itself must be renewed every 6 months and not 2 years as they had initially intended.

To avoid a major rebellion the government has acceded to the amendment.

Yes it is naïve. Looking at Gatwick arrivals, most have been cancelled. Looking at Heathrow arrivals, planes are still arriving from all over the world. Will people coming off planes be checked?

Ridiculous, isn't it Summerlove? All those little virus particles will be sitting in their corner, waiting for the start bell!

I've been out twice in the last two weeks. I haven't stockpiled, but I'm one of those people who has enough in my cupboards and freezer for a siege anyway. Even so, I need supplies of cat food, coffee, milk and whatever veg and I can find. I found tinned tomatoes in B & M. I've also discovered that my local pharmacist won't do home deliveries, so that could be a problem in future. Fortunately, I had some spare keys cut a few weeks ago, to give to some friends and neighbours - the key cutter has now closed, so I was lucky.

I think it's inevitable we'll move to a lock down, with some exceptions for grocery and pharmacy shopping.

It seems to be quite a haphazard situation. Tescos near my DS had no milk at the weekend, my Sainsburys had loads. My other DS reports Aldi as being fine as well. No idea why.
I have always taken parcels in for my neighbour but he has a child, and today I've had my doorbell rung twice asking me to take parcels for him and I've refused. Am I being too careful and awful? My own family are staying away because they want me safe.

There are a number of children and babies in pushchairs being taken on these outings. Bad enough endangering yourself but people endangering children should be severely sanctioned.

People are going out, because the guidelines apparently don’t start until Monday. Because that makes all of the sense in the world.

My and my OH went to our local Asda this morning as we are getting a bit short on loo rolls and no, we haven't been stockpiling either, just trying to shop as normal. However there weren't any left at all, not one. It was also obvious that a lot of people were staying at home as there weren't a lot of customers either. So we popped into Aldi in the hope that they had some left and we were very surprised to see that they had quite a lot, not loads and loads but plenty for everyone. We were limited to 4 of any product but we just had the one pack of 9. Can't be greedy can we? Again there weren't many customers in there so it seems as though a lot of people are listening to the Government unless of course they have stockpiled so much food , they have no more room to put it. It also made me wonder if the reason Aldi has plenty of everything they normally sell is because a lot of people just don't like shopping there, it being a 'budget' supermarket. Do you think that is so? I would be interested to hear what you think.

I fully support the new powers that the government is taking upon itself this week. They are the same as if we are on a war footing.

However, in view of these enormous powers that are to last for a minimum of two years I think that democracy demands that the entire country is represented in the division making process that lies ahead.

In my view a government of national unity should be formed.

It would have been naive if the government had actually thought that, but of course, they didn’t.
They gave the public a chance to do the right thing, and if they didn’t do the right thing, the rest of us would support new draconian measures being put in place without screaming about civil liberties.

I despair of the British public and am ashamed of the behaviour of some who think they can just flout the guidelines and not only ignore them but actually spend yesterday doing the exact opposite. It looked worse than a bank holiday weekend - how can they be so selfish and downright stupid!!

That’s completely shocking wwm2

It is when you get articles such as the DM is publishing. Totally irresponsible

www.thecanary.co/trending/2020/03/22/the-daily-mail-just-reached-an-unbelievably-dangerous-new-low/

To answer the question in the heading: Yes it is naive to think people will do the right thing. One of those naive people appears to be our Prime Minister. It's no good his appealing to our better nature and 'asking' people to adhere to the 6' space. Only when there are troops and police on the streets, the parks and even the beaches, will our dozy populace take heed and accept distancing and isolation. If he finally decides to declare a State of Emergency, we know that his hand has been forced by the sheer ineptitude of our fellow citizens.

Whose fault is it if lock down happens because the public isn’t listening? Of course it’s the publics!

How could it not be?

Going out because it’s the first nice weekend and last one before lockdown in so unbelievably arrogant and stupid.

A virus doesn’t care when a government starts a lockdown.

We have known about this since early January. It appears that most governments around the world sat on their hands and hoped it would go away. That hasn’t happened. But we should be blaming the government support is not being more prepared. We should be blaming the public for is that they are unwilling to follow reasonable guidelines. None of this has anything to do with people wanting their human rights.

It's because you can have the virus with no or very little in the way of symptoms. You could then pass it on to a few who will pass it on to twice as many and so on. The nhs will soon become overwhelmed, already has in some places from what I've read. It has enough trouble coping on a regular basis both summer and winter now. Stay safe stay home and I hope you stay well.

Alan if everyone stayed at home, as per the advice, then only the essential workers would be out and about and could go to the supermarkets to get food.
It’s the idiots who think that they are invincible along with the ones who don’t give a s**t that are causing the problems.
Sadly we will all be locked down because of the irresponsible ones.
I do think though, that the supermarkets need to take a fair amount of the blame for a lot of this, the tills could have been set up to limit products to 2 of anything , security on the doors and a separate queue for NHS workers, they did nothing, they just stood back and let it happen. Of course it’s win win for them isn’t it?

I heard this morning that there’s a bill going through Parliament today to give the police the powers they need. That may explain why Boris was trying to get people to do as they were advised, to use common sense. He wasn’t legally able to send the police out to enforce people staying in.

I agree with Greta, people are scared on the one hand and believe by stockpiling, will protect their loved ones, with another group who don't believe the illness will happen to them. A don't care attitude which is unfortunate.
In contrast, since I have been 'self isolating' I've had cards and flyers from neighbours and local councillor/ support group, offering help in any way they can.
Such is the society we are in now.

RosinA. Agreed it absolutely is the public’s fault but given they won’t respect the advice surely it has to become more than advice ?

I was angry, saddened and ashamed to hear yesterday that the Tesco near us, having set aside an early hour's shopping for health workers, was 'stormed' by other people, pushing others aside, ignoring the staff there and loading their trolleys up. That also nurses who have stayed on to work additional duties are coming back to find they've been given parking tickets, and a paramedic who had been asked to leave his accommodation by his landlady to leave because she is afraid of the risk he poses. This is the lovely (not) city of Bristol. For goodness sake, the people, mayor and city council- just look at yourselves.

Sadly, yes! I have a (soon to be ex) friend who, aside from anything else, used to nurse and work in the DOH who thinks it’s all a ridiculous fuss. I am running out of patience with her thoughtless selfishness.
If people were sensible and responsible we could have, possibly, avoided a LockDown but it appears that is the only option for any hope

Its all very well asking people to self isolate ...BUT think of those working in for instrance the NHS ….they CANNOTA SELF ISOLATE ….and without testing being available have no idea which of them if any may be incubating the illness......so if Boris wants everyone to self isolate who is going to look after those who simply cannot do that ….? it is a huge quandary ...damned if you do, and damned if you don't !