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SubscribeI just briefly misheard Rishi Sunak who was actually tripping very slightly over his words and saying "the ... our NHS". It made me think that Royal patronage is something that could be given in recognition of the NHS workers when this is all over.
I meant too bitchy
I went with my neighbour for the clap. The whole street was clapping. I don't like the tone of this thread too itchy. Our nhs saved my life and deserve a bloody big pay rise after this
I am not enthusiastic about RNHS but I am attracted by ONHS - Our NHS - as suggested way up the thread.
At the more practical level, and accepting that I do not know how individual salaries are arrived at within the agreed scales, I think the taxpayer should fund a generous bonus scheme to allow NHS workers of all categories to be generously rewarded for their outstanding work during the pandemic.
I cannot believe that I am sitting here watching people in mental agony because they are starving in Italy and yet this is the conversation you want to have Trisher. I feel sad that people will see this as the face of GN.
I actually ASKED you if you COULD stop splitting hairs I did not TELL you to do so. It seems you can't. It seems you just use this thread to develop disputes with individual posters. I don't want to feed the need, so I leave you to it.
I am not sure why you think you have any right to expect a reply except for playing on my sense of decency. However, you are certainly not going to do yourself any good. You are making more and more a fool of yourself. Unfortunately, I can see no way of stopping you doing that if you insist on continuing in this way.
I was quoting your words, copied and pasted from your post.
Could you please point out where I told you to "stop splitting hairs"? Are you attributing these words to me? Is that why they are in inverted commas? Just asking!
Trisher, there is nothing to explain. I wrote something. It was perfectly clear what it said. You misquoted it.
I wrote the topic of the thread so telling me to " stop splitting hairs and return to the topic." seems to infer that you know more than I do about what I wrote. Even you have to admit that is unlikely.
I am not interested, on this thread, in your opinion of Royalty or the politics of the NHS. I might be elsewhere and others may wish to discuss it with you; I do not. I was simply interested in the topic I put forward. Your second paragraph is of absolutely no interest to me. I really don't know how to make that any clearer.
I am also not interested in discussing anything with someone who is prepared to misrepresent what I wrote. I do not know how I can make that any clearer either.
If you feel this needs reporting to GN you should do so. I would. That is what they ask us to do. However, I have not personally attacked you. You lied about what I had written and tried to disguise that lie by suggesting it was a quote. Not good Trisher. Not good at all.
GGMK£ I asked you to explain those views, I apologised if you considered my inverted commas as deliberately misleading and all you can do is personally attack me. I could report your post but I won't.
If you cannot understand that the NHS is an institution which was conceived and implemented by people who believed in socialism and had socialist principles. and that adding the prefix "Royal" to it would be an insult to their memory. then so be it. It has never received Royal patronage, it has never been directly supported by anyone Roya.l and it has never been used by any Royal. It is an institution that belongs to ordinary people and it should remain so.
Trisher I am not interested in talking to someone who will blatantly misquote me. What will you do next? All you want is an argument and you misquoted for that purpose. I am simply not interested in the subjects you and others are dragging into this thread. All I was thinking about was how we could mark the amazing work, generosity and sometimes their lives that many are giving at the moment. That was the topic. I wrote it and I have never gone off it!
Someone else may want to argue with you about other things - I don't but neither do I want to be misrepresented and my views lied about.
GGMK3 if my interpretation of your post is not correct please could you explain it to me, because I can't see any other meaning there. If you do not like the quotation marks I am quite willing to accept that and apologise for them if you think they misled anyone.
However I do think it would be better if you could stop splitting hairs and return to the topic.
It was not only not a quote, it certainly did not appear to imply a direct or indirect "connection". It bore no resemblance to what I had said and was done in order to provide the poster with a means of attack which she quickly followed up.
I will not accept that basically, I have to put myself up as an Aunt Sally for any bully on this site. It's not going to happen. It was a lie and a complete misrepresentation of what I had said and you really cannot use wriggle words to get out of that janeainsworth
Quotation marks are not used only for direct quotations.
They can also be used to simply imply a connection, where the connection is not necessarily a direct one.
For example,
Belinda spoke to her cousin in a “school-mistress” tone.
You could argue that in that example, the quotation marks are unnecessary, but they add a nuance of meaning and are not incorrect.
No, trisher, if you paraphrase you do not put it in quotes - it is not a quote - and you do it as a truthful interpretation. What I was saying was not what you "quoted". You lied about what I said and now you are adding to that lie.
I will not comment on a lie and I will not discuss with someone who thinks it is okay to misrepresent someone in a way that gives them another stick to beat with.
GGMK3 Your actual words were You really don't know what anyone will want any more than I do. I doubt those whose antecedents passed down the Pip, Squeak and Wilfred medals from WW1 think of them as meaningless.
I simply paraphrased.
No comment about the socialists who set up our NHS I see. Far more important than any Royal connection.
Sat 28-Mar-20 12:52:12 to Trisher.
"How grateful the decendants of WW1 soldiers are to have their medals"
You have written that as a quote. Hoping, I assume they other will believe I wrote it. I did not. You did. Your argument is with yourself.
OK GGMK3 let's tackle the "How grateful the decendants of WW1 soldiers are to have their medals" argument. The men who fought in WW1 had no choice and many of them did not want and did not value their medals because they viewed the fight as useless. Let's not mix the NHS up with that debacle.
The NHS was formed by a government and proposed by men who believed society had to change and who were socialists. To even think of calling it "Royal" is to dishonour their memory and the incredible legacy they left us.
I dont know how anyone else felt seeing Bojo and his new sidekick clapping the NHS on Thursday...it made me sick! This was the government who APPLAUDED and CHEERED when the bill proposing a decent rise for Nurses was defeated in the House of Commons.
RESPECT ...something this government doesn't deserve and our NHS and NHS Scotland deserve in imeasurable amounts
NOT a "royal" warrant ..what use is that to anyone .As for Royal Wooton Bassett ...I and most of my community would refuse if anyone attempted to stick R on the front of our Towns name ..its just ridiculous and patronising in fact thats what "royalty" is all about
A good night's sleep tends to clarify things. I would ask a couple of questions of those telling me not to express my views because the majority on this thread don't agree with me.
Why do you need to be so domineering? Why do you feel the need to impose your beliefs on someone else? I have no wish to impose mine on you; just to discuss them. Why such arrogance, over what is only an opinion, that you feel you must stop others from putting their's forward?
I do not understand this attitude and don't actually, in real life, know anyone so arrogant and controlling that they say to me "if you don't agree go away". I truly find this very strange.
When did you take over GNHQ's job Lemongrove? Just remind me.
Your comment is hardly in the spirit of GN GGM3
I have added to ‘the topic’ by saying what my views are on thanking NHS workers.
It's up to you Lemongrove, as much as anyone else. Yet again you have joined in a thread, not to add anything to the topic but to stir. Same old, same old, it seems.
A good time for it to end then perhaps.
Hi all,
It'd be great if we could get the discussion back on track. It's turning into a bit of a bunfight at the moment.
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