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I don't think I had any idea

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Greymar Fri 03-Apr-20 21:13:01

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRM5yyaDkMc&fbclid=IwAR1yc7q55fgHJ4lzaQMNMkvtIs3t3OjShjm8nKUMtr2XpukZLdooU7J4uFs

Cabbie21 Sat 04-Apr-20 12:26:26

I haven’t watched it, though I might do later.
Sometimes the best approach to the situation is mindlessness, as opposed to mindfulness. It is not so much a denial as a mental distancing of oneself from the worst of it. It doesn’t mean we don’t care.

Lucca Sat 04-Apr-20 12:35:11

Welshwife. Great post !

Elegran Sat 04-Apr-20 12:48:34

There are some who want to know all about it, some who don't. It isn't a case of being over- or under- sensitive, of caring too much or too little. It is just different approaches. So long as people act sensibly, whatever circumstances they find themselves in, it doesn't matter. It is the same with all medical matters.

I found this sobering, but not scaremongering. Whether we want the details or not, the graph of our progress through this pandemic is going to follow a very similar curve to Italy's. The same is true of all the countries in the world.

Their aim is to manage to flatten the curve so that all the serious cases don't need intensive care at the same time, which will minimise the death rate, though it will still be high.

The whole population should be behind the efforts to do that, and to help those most likely to get it badly to stay isolated by ensuring they don't have to mix with crowds to get supplies. They should also follow all the advice that will minimise their own chance of avoiding catching and spreading it - not just for themselves but for everyone's sake.

Lucca Sat 04-Apr-20 14:21:58

Elegran. We do need a like button. Sobering but not scaremongering, spot on

Eloethan Sat 04-Apr-20 16:20:53

It's important that what is happening in the world isn't suppressed, and this footage was informative and worthy - but also very upsetting and frightening.

I was also quite unnerved when a British doctor explained in an interview why patients are usually anaesthetised or heavily sedated when they are being ventilated.

I don't know whether it's better to know everything relating to an upsetting subject or whether it's better not to know everything and live in - maybe not blissful - but at least not-too-scared ignorance.

Urmstongran Sat 04-Apr-20 16:24:15

I’d rather not know everything.

Greymar Sat 04-Apr-20 17:39:32

Everybody is different. Emotions are heightened and speaking personally can change very quickly.

suziewoozie Sat 04-Apr-20 17:41:00

Eloethan I was reassured to hear you are sedated / anaethestised if you are put on a ventilator.

Eloethan Sat 04-Apr-20 22:44:38

suziewoozie Yes, it is better for the patient, but I hadn't understood the process of ventilation, which is much more complicated than I'd thought.

Namsnanny Sat 04-Apr-20 23:11:17

Anything else is just voyerisum, like slowing down at a road crash
The above and everything else you said in your post Urmstongran

Plus I didn't like the idea of being railroaded into watching something that may affect my health, or that of others.

Thank you rosecarmel for taking the trouble to explain.

Namsnanny Sat 04-Apr-20 23:15:15

Sorry for my spelling foepah grin

POGS Sat 04-Apr-20 23:17:15

I watched this Sky News report at the time it was initially aired, it is very interesting.

Sky News and Aljazeera have trounced the BBC for a long time now.

Namsnanny Sat 04-Apr-20 23:31:21

Yeah maybe, but you can choose if and when you want to watch.

That's the point here.

Greymar Sun 05-Apr-20 08:20:50

I don't agree with what you said Urm. I was very distressed at the suggestion I was staring at a virtual car crash. I would never do such a thing. I see now, it is wrong to post links without explanation.

Elegran Sun 05-Apr-20 09:43:44

I would never stare at a virtual car crash, either, but I watched that docimentary. It is not "voyeurism" to want to know all you can about something which is very likely to affect you at some time in the future, if not the next few weeks. It prevents misunderstandings, and it means we can recognise fake news and uninformed rumour when we meet it.
But if you know it will worry you more to see the raw facts than just believe and edited version, then that is your choice.
No-one can railroad you into watching what you don't want to watch - if they could every one of us would be pinned to the TV with our eyelids taped open in front of some inane rubbish whose makers wanted to boost their ratings.

Lucca Sun 05-Apr-20 10:09:04

“Railroaded into watching”. .??? By whom?
I completely understand if people don’t want to watch, I myself watch very little but this was, as many posters have said, a sobering but interesting and well made film.
Greymar please don’t take any implied criticisms on here to heart.

growstuff Sun 05-Apr-20 12:05:34

It wasn't at all like watching a car crash. It was more like watching how emergency services respond to crashes and feel about attending serious accidents.

Elegran Sun 05-Apr-20 12:14:43

This reminds me of pre-Brexit reactions to factual information on how the EU actually works, on how many "EU diktats" were really inventions of a bored journalist, and expert predictions of just what red tape would be involved and how long it would take to disengage from the EU.

Namsnanny Sun 05-Apr-20 19:14:55

by the op and the lack of info

Elegran Sun 05-Apr-20 19:49:48

If you followed the link, one glance at the title of the video (Special report: Coronavirus - Into The Red Zone) told you what it was about. The original poster didn't railroad you into anything. You have free will. If you exercised that, you either watched it or you didn't watch it.

Greymar Sun 05-Apr-20 19:50:47

Can I ask you namsnanny why ,when I have apologised twice very clearly,for failing to provide information on the link you continue to taunt me?

Also you professed concern for me this morning and I replied I am unwell mentally. Still you continue to jab at me here.

Greymar Sun 05-Apr-20 19:54:46

This may refresh your memory.

Namsnanny Sun 05-Apr-20 02:18:19
Greymar … Are you feeling distressed?

Thanks for asking Nams, I am not well mentally.

Hetty58 Sun 05-Apr-20 20:05:05

Greymar, thanks for posting it. I found it sad to watch, of course, but it's reality and not alarming or sensationalist.

We all know what's happening out there and I like detailed information - the complete picture. Forewarned is forearmed.

Others like to bury their heads in the sand or maybe stick their fingers in their ears and sing 'La, la, la. It's a free choice!

growstuff Sun 05-Apr-20 20:06:54

Ahem Elegran that thought went through my mind too. I wonder if it's the same people hmm. However, I thought mention of the B word had been banished!

Urmstongran Sun 05-Apr-20 20:22:30

Greymar I sincerely hope I haven’t upset you. That was never my intention.

Too much CV information doesn’t do me any good mentally. Yes, it might be a ‘la-la’ attitude but I could easily spiral into a panic out here in Spain.

The numbers here are very high, we are not allowed to go out even for a walk and I don’t have my own GP or our wonderful practice nurse to turn to.

I have chosen therefore to limit my exposure to information.

That is not in any way an attack on you personally.

Please accept my sincere apology if I have upset you. Your intentions were sound - just not for me!
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