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How corona virus has spread

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suziewoozie Thu 09-Apr-20 19:05:55

And now there’s talk of Royal Ascot ‘behind closed doors’. What does that even begin to mean? Someone should slap the organisers down now for even floating the idea.

janeainsworth Thu 09-Apr-20 18:36:25

Thank you for the link Dinahmo.
I can’t help wondering if the Cheltenham Festival had been cancelled, whether the spread of the virus in this country would have been different.

GagaJo Thu 09-Apr-20 18:20:01

Knowing my friend, she probably didn't take precautions. Next time we're chatting I'll ask though.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Apr-20 18:18:05

A few years ago my OH got pericarditis. One evening he developed pains in his chest/arm and we ended up calling the emergency service. A doctor came with a cardiograph. She found nothing wrong with his heart. It was obvious that he was in pain and so she called the paramedics who came with a bigger machine - again nothing wrong with his heart. It was still obvious that he in severe pain and so he was taken to hospital, put on a drip with pain killers, which didn't do much. In the early hours a doctor concluded it was pericarditis and after a couple of days he came home, with large doses of aspirin. No subsequent problems. Some people told him they knew someone who'd had it and had not recovered. We couldn't understand how he'd caught it and our GP said that it was in the atmosphere.

Not to frighten you all, if this had been ebola, it would have been far worse because whereas the particles containing covid fall to the ground, apparently those from ebola stay in the air.

M0nica Thu 09-Apr-20 18:14:06

GagaJo I do not think the suggestion is that Covid-19 is only transmitted through social gatherings but that social gatherings are the way it can be spread to a lot of people all at once, who can then, each, of them pass it on to other people.

I believe the take off point for the virus in both Italy and South Korea where church congregations where 100 plus people could be infected in one event. If they just went to work and home and infected 5 people, which I think is the average, the virus could go from 0 to 100 to 500 cases within a week, after that it is in the population and contact tracing is impossible.

What precautions did your friend take when she went to the supermarket? Was she wearing gloves? a full length coat? that could be hung out to air once she got home, a mask, there are lots of arguments pro and con maskes, but even a scarf around your face offers some protection.

Labaik Thu 09-Apr-20 18:00:33

...you've got crumpets...envy…!

Labaik Thu 09-Apr-20 17:59:51

GagaJo; I've been pottering about the kitchen, cleaning [I've got ants grrr] and thinking about your friend. Worrying though it is that she has caught the virus even though she stayed pretty much at home the fact that she is, thankfully, on the mend again shows that viral loading could be a factor and that the more we can minimise our contact with the virus albeit not being able to avoid it completely, the greater our chance of getting a milder dose of it.

EllanVannin Thu 09-Apr-20 17:37:47

Great, I'll continue with lashings of Lurpak on me crumpets smile

Labaik Thu 09-Apr-20 16:47:49

According to Dr Campbell you can improve your susceptibility to catching diseases of the respiratory tract by taking VitD [and this is backed up by the BMJ. From memory I think it can be improved by 70%

GagaJo Thu 09-Apr-20 16:42:33

Only going

GagaJo Thu 09-Apr-20 16:42:07

Grr. Autocorrect. *As said

GagaJo Thu 09-Apr-20 16:41:36

A small said in another thread, I have a friend who developed it THREE weeks into lockdown. Ongoing going to the supermarket once a week and dog walking. Thankfully she's ok, but she wasn't at any gatherings.

I don't think we'll know the real truth until the panademic is long gone.

Urmstongran Thu 09-Apr-20 16:41:16

Those that have and will die are doing so through weakness. Not weakness of character though. It's weakness of immune systems of which we have little control over. You get what you are born with and there is next to nothing you can do about it. You can maximize what you have through diet and good living which will help the better off but all you can do is not reduce your immune system, not increase it.

EllanVannin Thu 09-Apr-20 16:33:38

There is no doubt at all that it's caused by gatherings/ crowds/ cinemas/ theatres/ concerts/ music gigs and when it first started, by flights and through its air-con shared by those who had the virus but showed no symptoms.
Look how air con has caused Legionnaires in the past ?
Other people's exhaled breath circulated, yuk.

Covid. 19 was here before even the W.H.O knew or were aware of.

Labaik Thu 09-Apr-20 16:31:17

Unfortunately some people can't avoid going to shops [eg my daughter can no longer get deliveries so has to pick up from a supermarket next week]. So it is reassuring to read articles such as this. I must admit that I haven't read it yet [I will asap] but assume it supports the viral load theory.

Urmstongran Thu 09-Apr-20 16:26:19

Me too AGAA4. Especially as I’m over 60y.

JenniferEccles Thu 09-Apr-20 16:26:03

Stating the obvious???

AGAA4 Thu 09-Apr-20 16:15:57

Interesting article. Thanks. I don't think anyone really knows for sure how the virus is spread but large gatherings of people socialising, sharing cups, hugging and kissing is obviously a sure way of transmitting the virus.
Until we find out definitely how it is spread I will be avoiding shops whenever possible and staying at home.

Dinahmo Thu 09-Apr-20 14:32:43

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/the-cluster-effect-how-social-gatherings-were-rocket-fuel-for-coronavirus

The above is rather a long article but explains clearly how the virus spreads - through long periods of social gatherings rather than shopping in supermarkets etc. It makes interesting reading