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I’d be interested on views on this

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Grannynannywanny Wed 22-Apr-20 11:34:08

Yesterday bumped into an acquaintance on country walk. She’s 63 and very good health. Lives 1 mile from her daughter and family and was very tearful about not being allowed to walk by their house and chat in garden at a safe distance. We chatted for 15 mins at safe distance while tears continued to flow. At the end she said what’s difference between us chatting here together and someone chatting with family safely distanced in garden or open parkland? I’m doing best to observe guidelines but I did find it hard to come up with an answer to her question ( my grandkids are 100 miles away so I promise you this isn’t about me!)

allule Thu 23-Apr-20 16:48:24

Daughter and grandchildren brought some shopping round yesterday, on their daily walk, to leave on the step. I happened to be upstairs and saw them, so opened the window and we had a chat at a very safe distance. I think now we have got into the habit of self isolation, we will be more aware of risks than we would have been at the beginning of this nightmare.

absthame Thu 23-Apr-20 16:45:46

Sorry fluzzy not fuzzy, even it's thought to maybe ..................

absthame Thu 23-Apr-20 16:43:41

Unless your a government minister or Prime Minister (or his fuzzy) anything that you want to do is not permitted. If you fall into the former groups, then anything it seems is permitted.

sarahellenwhitney Thu 23-Apr-20 16:12:26

Photo in the DM showing Prince C cuddling his youngest GS Louis taken by mother Kate at the Cambridge's home in Norfolk. How come its ok for Prince Charles to ignore lock down but not for us lot stuck at home with only the phone to contact our loved ones.

CleoPanda Thu 23-Apr-20 15:49:30

The big issue is that none of us actually know if we have the virus. Many people have it and are symptom free. Some are symptom free for the first few days then develop a slight illness. If you have the virus, you shed it. This can be via coughs, sneezes, touch or even talking. If you sit on anything, use anything, touch anything etc you will be shedding the virus. All this can be mitigated by washing hands thoroughly with soap and water or sanitiser, wearing disposable gloves and face masks and not touching eyes, nose or mouth.
The problem is that one lapse can pass on the virus. If you cough unexpectedly, sneeze unexpectedly, lean forward and laugh etc.
That’s why the guidance says “stay at home” . By not going into another home or garden, you are minimising your chances of getting or passing on the virus.
It’s the only sure way to reduce the risk and to help slow down the contagion until a vaccine is available.
If you visit or are visited, you take a risk.

oodles Thu 23-Apr-20 15:46:02

my daughter comes down the garden for a while when she brings food round, she wore just round the corner from me so it's not a special trip. We keep apart at least 2 m, usually more, and I have wipes in case she touches anything, she usually has a drink of pop and puts the can in the bin on the way out. I have a long back garden, I chat to my neighbours from a distance so its no different. She doesn't let me see the dogs, as although they don't get cv or carry it, she worries someone who might be carrying it might have stroked them if they saw me they'd run to me, and we'd have trouble distancing

annep1 Thu 23-Apr-20 14:40:32

Nannan2 I'm well aware there's a pandemic. I'm not stupid.
I was quite happy at first having to stay in as I have M.E and the stress of having to be in certain places and do particular things was removed. My body has really appreciated the break. But the novelty of that has worn off.
And thank you for your gloomy prediction. Just what I need right now!.

Fiachna50 Thu 23-Apr-20 14:40:12

My family bring groceries. They deliver them to our door and then go back to the top of the garden, we have a little chat, then they go home. From us at the door to our garden gate is over 2 metrès. Only when we need food. We videochat mainly. It is very hard not seeing them all. I appreciate how others feel here too.

Patticake123 Thu 23-Apr-20 14:10:28

Well I am a law abiding citizen and I’ve just had a cuppa and a chat to my daughter, son in law and grandchildren. I stood on the pavement, they stood on their drive and we chatted, blew kisses and had air hugs. I collected the shopping they had kindly added to their own delivery. I do not believe I risked my own or their safety but I certainly appreciated seeing them all.

sarahellenwhitney Thu 23-Apr-20 14:08:04

GreenGran78.
There's always a 'virtual cuddle' which many ,self included, have to be content with when loved ones live overseas.

pensionpat Thu 23-Apr-20 13:54:26

I see some neighbours on a Wednesday when we take out the bins. We have a bit of a chat from the correct distance and it is very pleasant. We agreed yesterday that on 8th May, our cul de sac would have a V E Day afternoon tea. We shall sit on our front lawns and provide our own tea. It is something different to do. I haven’t been further than the bin for 5 weeks. And I shan’t on that day. I’m looking forward to it.

GreenGran78 Thu 23-Apr-20 13:48:32

People should just apply a little common-sense. if they live nearby, and there is no danger of children rushing into the 'danger zone' then it's perfectly alright.

My daughter and granddaughter stop at the gate, while walking their dog, and we have a chat at a safe distance. I just wish that I could do the same with the rest of the family, who live in Australia. Our chats have to be VERY long distance, via Facetime. My 3 year old GD keeps asking when I am coming to her house. It should be next week, to see her little cousin when he is born, but heaven knows when it will be now.

If you are able, go and enjoy your family visits, but stay safe!

Rosiebee Thu 23-Apr-20 13:48:20

Yesterday my two GC 15 and 20, stopped by to say hello. It was a lovely surprise. They could only stay 10 mins but they walked round the side of the house into the back garden and we stood and had a well distanced chat. Hadn't seen them for ages and couldn't really see a problem with that. DH and I have had the virus. However be sure your sins will find you out! As they arrived I was filling up the sink to do some washing up, DH called me to say that we had visitors and everything else went out of my mind. Needless to say I remembered as I went back inside to find hot soapy water all across the kitchen floor and just lapping at the dining room carpet. blush
So meet up at a distance but check you've turned the taps off first.

sarahellenwhitney Thu 23-Apr-20 13:44:46

Aepgirl
Are we not told what not to do ?I live on planet earth, don't know where you are, and constantly hear 24x7, via the media, what I should not be doing.

fluttERBY123 Thu 23-Apr-20 13:39:30

GP next door had friends in garden at safe distance. Brought own chairs.

sarahellenwhitney Thu 23-Apr-20 13:34:21

As long as you follow guidelines during the situation the world finds itself in you are safe However there are those who believe they know better.These are the ones to avoid regardless whether family or friends.Be it on the heads of those, thinking they know better, should this lockdown be extended to the end of 2020 or even longer.

Aepgirl Thu 23-Apr-20 13:05:44

As I’ve said before, this is one of the few disadvantages of living in a free country. We aren’t ‘told’ what not to do I. The same way as people in more ‘controlled’ countries.

There is a residential retirement home near me (not a nursing home) that has a beautiful garden, and the residents are allowed to sit in the garden provided they keep the required distance. This seems sensible but some would see it as bending the rules of lockdown. It is a conundrum.

Paperbackwriter Thu 23-Apr-20 12:39:27

Doesn't seem any different from me coming out from my back gate to have a chat with the neighbour across the lane. If she's happy to walk the mile each way then why not?

Singlegrannie Thu 23-Apr-20 12:27:16

I live alone, a ten minute walk away from my daughter and her family. I moved to be close to them from nearly 200 miles away when she was expecting her first child, and have loved being close to them and providing support . The family will walk to my house a couple of times a week, usually with supplies. She lets me know when they are on the way and I open the back gate into the garden and they walk straight in while I remain in the house. As the children are small they have made a barrier out of garden chairs and they all stay behind it and I sit in the house by the patio door. It is wonderful to see them and it helps to keep me sane. I also want the grandchildren to maintain a relationship with me as far as possible as I hope to be able to help with childcare again one day. They are too young to sit and chat for long on facetime, and I am not very comfortable with it either. There are no drinks or snacks for anyone, my daughter brings what they need. They stay for 20 minutes to half an hour in case of needing the toilet, which hasn't been a problem so far. It is also good for the children and their parents to have a break.

ALANaV Thu 23-Apr-20 12:24:01

I am fortunate to live by the beach now (having lived in the EU for 21 years) on my daily walk I see loads of families either walking along the beach, cycling, at a distance from each other (although not always the joggers !!!! grr) BUT I also pass a block of care apartments where I see children and grandchildren waving to Granny at the window (first floor as well !) and a lot have drawn pictures which are stuck on the window....and some photographs of happier times ...the children seem to think this is great and so far is still a novelty ….and Grandma looks happy ….so why not do that ? or SKYPE ….I am sure someone would show you how if you don't know …..mostly we are all sensible adults and know how to keep ourselves and others safe so my message to the government is, to quote Helen Shapiro in the late 50's early 60's ///PLEASE DON'T TREAT ME LIKE A CHILD …..I am also fortunate in that a friends in Germany sent me a survival package ...ha ha ….masks, gloves, hand sanitizer, sanitized surface wipes ….oh and a bar of chocolate ! …..they had heard news reports that the general public in the UK cannot buy these as there is no stock …..they were amazed ! They have all been tested for anti bodies and so far are good, but can return to their own doctor regularly for further tests if they wish (at present they have to pay privately 30 Euros but are happy to do that !) ….comes to something when the Germans are coming to OUR rescue !!!! Stay safe, stay distanced and think of the good times …..flowers

GrauntyHelen Thu 23-Apr-20 12:16:09

If your friend chats from pavement to family at window there isn't a problem unless of course it's the family who asked her not to

Dareyouto Thu 23-Apr-20 12:15:55

My granddaughter brings the shopping and pops it through the patio doors. She then takes a chair and goes and sits down the bottom of the garden while I put my gloves on and deal with the shopping and make myself a cuppa. I then go and sit in my arbour some 12 feet or more away from her and we chat
She often brings her own lunch and a drink. Sometimes she is with her mother as they live in the same house.
I really cannot see a problem with that
Both my daughters put me under house arrest at the beginning of March, long before the government did as I have had recurring health issues (pulmonary embolisms) due to having HHT and they wanted to ensure my safety.
I am well so far and so are they and we are not taking any chances but I am not giving up my garden chats unless somebody physically refrains us. They are sensible and so am I.

Chestnut Thu 23-Apr-20 12:15:36

Don't worry Redhead56, I won't lean out of the window too far! And no-one said you were stupid, you were just concerned, maybe you imagined me actually hanging which is what I said, but didn't really mean!

BelindaB Thu 23-Apr-20 11:59:09

While walking my dogs yesterday afternoon I came across two ladies sitting at each end of a garden path, each with a cuppa in hand, having a good chat. Apparently they are next door neighbours! Nothing wrong with that.

Nannan2 Thu 23-Apr-20 11:56:28

Salsaqueen,maybe you could 'advise' your neighbour that he really should not be giving a party right now?hmm