Rise of po-faced moralising?

Then guy next door is having building work done. I had plumber in yesterday. The car and I go out from time to time to shop for elderly relative. So be it. I don't clap either.

Yes, some people are behaving like school sneaks. I cannot see why people shouldn't wash a car on their own property.

Parties and BBQs and other big get-togethers are obviously wrong but, if you see someone go into a house, you do not necessarily know the circumstances of the person who lives in it.

I believe in lockdown and keep to the rules strictly but I also believe I have read that the Police do not wish to be bothered over unnecessary and silly little things to do with lockdown as they have a lot to do at the moment.

I drive my car to deliver medication and food to elderly people and get my own shopping but that is all.

I do find people moralising - on here too.
It brings out the holier than thou brigade all over the place. As for naming and shaming - words fail me. It’s like shopping Jewish people to the nazis in WW2.
And I don’t clap. I live in the middle of nowhere and would feel stupid. It does not mean I don’t support them.

True but people will take advantage of it regardless

Thats a cop out starblaze
This is human nature. We dont need a "them" to turn on each other, we never have.

It just feels like the usual tactic. Have us blaming each other for everything so that the attention isn't on them

Didn't the government ask us to snitch on our neighbours if we broke the rules, sure I heard it in one of the briefings.

We must be all normal where I live as there hasn't been a hint of anything spiteful going on or any snitching carried out. Nobody bothers with each other or what they do.

The only fright I got was a couple of weeks ago on my local shopping jaunt when a police van pulled out of a side road which I was about to cross. Why would I feel like that ? Legs like jelly, I carried on, they weren't after me for God's sake ! Being out at all is bad enough, but when needs must--

Glorybee when my order is confirmed by email I've had a statement of how the particular firm is safeguarding staff and ensuring their health and wellbeing.

Callistemon, we’ve ordered loads of stuff online, all sorts of things, I view it as a very small way of keeping a few economic wheels ticking and assume the companies involved are sticking by the rules.

GrannyLaine I have referred to this subject on the Cancelled Saturday Deliveries thread - no not a thread about a thread!
I think we all just need to keep a cool head - if we are not breaching the guidelines we do not need to justify our actions and any officious busybodies or indeed jobsworths can be politely requested to “do one”.
For those who may be bending the rules, there may be no far reaching consequences of their actions and they are unlikely to change their behaviour because of one persons criticism. There will always be busybodies and jobsworths, and I would personally avoid confrontation unless I felt someone was being picked on or bullied.

This whole thing has brought out the best in some and the very worse in others.
Going out to clap the NHS, is not, as far as I know, mandatory but some people seem to think that it is.
My son that lives with me , because of the job he has, is often working from home and on a business Skype call - as far as I know, the clapping is only the UK, so difficult to explain to someone from the other side of the world that they have to break for several minutes mid call to go and stand on the doorstep!
Some bright spark tried to name and shame a few none clappers on our village noticeboard - unfortunately for them, the first person she picked on was a retired solicitor with MS that was suffering a flare up. She was threatened with legal action for himself and for anybody else that she named and told in future to keep such thoughts to herself or she would be reported for harassment! She's been quiet since!

Yes, some departments are quieter but if you are in a serious RTA you’ll require an ambulance, A&E, ortho trauma services, x- ray, anaesthesia, porters, nurses, ICU or HDU and so on and on. All of these services require staffing and all of those staff deserve to be protected as far as possible - especially when car journeys are non essential. Everyone needs to think about their actions and that includes non essential construction site workers. Every single car journey comes with a risk - multiply that by thousands or millions and you quickly see how it becomes a problem.

And you're not Grannybags, and nor am I. It was one of those threads that became quite nonsensical. And actually quite spiteful. The letters have been brilliant and I shall treasure them forever.

SirChenjin no-one wants to be taken to hospital at the moment for any reason and we do not want to put undue pressure on the NHS but other departments are very much quieter than normal at the moment. I know you work for the NHS but I only speak from the experience of family members.

I thought some businesses could still operate if correct safety precautions are undertaken?
When DIY stores re-open fully and hamfisted home DIYers start enthusiastically carrying out all the jobs they have put off pro tem there may be more demand for A&E.

GrannyLaine I was soundly berated for ordering vegetable seeds and yarn online. Despite the fact that both firms had explained their safeguarding procedures (hence an understandable delay) I was told I was putting people's lives at risk and could kill someone by my selfish actions and by putting delivery drivers under pressure.

All delivery drivers so far have been exceedingly cheerful and friendly and I hope this will be keeping them in a job and the firms still in business.

I would be horrified to think that I had put anyone at risk as our whole family is trying to abide by the rules and not behaving irresponsibly.

I don't know where everyone else lives but we do not see police where we live apart from a helicopter hovering over the local woods. As for moralists mind your own business life is difficult enough.

Craftyone - the thing is, non essential construction sites (that include flats) shouldn’t be operational. Unless these men are walking a reasonable distance to work, every single car journey has a risk of causing an accident which requires medical or surgical input at a time when we’re trying to minimise the impact on the NHS or of requiring breakdown cover that puts the driver and/or the mechanic at risk.

I think that there are certainly some people who being overly cautious and twitching their net curtains, but we need to make sure that we all continue to adhere to the Govt guidelines rather than making unilateral decisions because we’ve somehow justified that what we’re doing is fine just because we want to do it. It’s about getting the balance.

GrannyLaine I was so excited to receive a letter from my 8 year old granddaughter telling me how much she missed me.
Of course I wrote back to her. I've never thought of myself as 'horribly selfish'

we have to be very careful the new rules don't take away our civil liberties permanently. I am glad to see so many replies from grans.

I suppose saving water is sensible as water works personnel have to be protected from over work when some will have been taken ill.
Cars' door handles certainly should be washed in soapy lather. Other outdoor things needing washing are wheelie bin tops and handles which have been handled by workers who have handled wheelie bins from hundreds of other households.

Oh, indeed, Grannylaine! I was called ‘irresponsible’ and ‘murderous’ here on GN for suggesting that some people might have reasons for thinking differently from the herd.

I understand what you are saying Geekesse

Grannylaine that’s ridiculous.

And GN has its fair share too.

I was called "horribly selfish" and worse for sending a single letter to my grandchildren because of the massive and unnecessary strain it would put on the postal service.

People have too much time to dwell on things at the moment and they are also scared. There is so much conflicting advice around it gets very stressful trying to do what is best.

I agree Hetty58 I keep well away from FB after a very difficult time a couple of years ago.