Rise of po-faced moralising?

I just took cake to the few builders on my new home development site, it was after I read your post LD. I am safe, they know it and I took a big paper plate so they can just tip the cake slices out. My builders here are lovely, they are social distancing too and I never thought about potential verbal abuse. Thses do-gooders need to go back behind their cushions

I don’t report anyone unless what they are doing will directly affect me and mine, but, a very near neighbour had her sons over for coffee and whilst they were there they met washed their trucks in the main road, their excuse? They are in the building trade.
Another close neighbour has had other family members staying over and partying at weekends, with children and a large dog, their excuse? They keep horses nearby and the family members visiting are thinking about getting a horse so came to visit theirs.
Seems that some rules can be stretched and bent to fit, we all know that builders are working and you are allowed to go and visit livestock.

'If' we have any curtain twitchers in our close they are going to have a field day tomorrow: we are having a new boiler fitted. OH has kept it going for the past month but now enough is enough.

Flats are being built opposite our house. The builders came back on Monday and have been practising social distancing. I spoke to them through my window to say it was good to see some normality. They said they had had nothing but abuse and people threatening them with the police.

Get a life.

facemasks are useless unless designated PPE for frontline workers but there are plenty of sheep hiding behind paper and home made masks.

I avoid Facebook. It seems to be a modern troublemaker, almost as worrying as the Pandemic. Just my opinion.

Today, the vice president toured the Mayo Clinic and refused to wear a mask when asked to-

He's the head of the Coronavirus Task Force-

I think that deserves 4 pitchforks-

I had a police car behind me going to the vet last week. I was literally so stressed that I would be in some sort of trouble going somewhere other than work or shopping that I had to do an abrupt stop when I suddenly realised I was at a temporary red light. I don't know why he didn't pull me over. I'm such an idiot sometimes.

What a refreshing thread! I thought it was just me, maybe getting paranoid.

The other week I was walking (on my own) around my local park (allocated exercise). There was a young lad walking across the grassy area in the middle within about 20ft of me and (from behind me) two policemen came over to him, stopped him and asked him questions ('where are you going', etc). What I found strange is that the police were standing shoulder to shoulder. What is happening?

I never watch that angry Piers Moron and avoid Facebook like the plague - so that explains it!

Certainly the 'jobsworths' moralisers and Nosy Parkers are enjoying this.

I can't see anything wrong with cleaning the car. It's not something I would do if I could help it but there is no harm if someone wants to do so.

I posted on another thread that the police were stopping motorists near my friend's house and asking them the reason they were out driving - fair enough. But the policeman started quizzing my friend, who was just going for a walk, about where she was going, how far and then told her exactly how far she should go - about a ten minute walk. No more.

That is nasty, Oopsminty.
Instead of offering a helping hand to a neighbour in need someone feels the need to be nasty. I hope they're named and shamed.

Oopsminty I thought it couldn't get worse! That's made me tearful

People can be extremely cruel

90 year old man sent a poison pen letter

www.soundhealthandlastingwealth.com/health-news/man-with-dementia-from-stevenage-gets-threatening-note-slamming-him-for-not-clapping-for-nhs/

I read somewhere and I can't remember where so maybe it was here (lol) that a lady was named and shamed on a Facebook page for not clapping for the NHS. Poor woman had fallen asleep.

People being pillared on FB is real.

My DD was named and shamed last week and bless her she got on the page.

She asked " which one of you Moral Entrepreneurs would stop a call from a friend in New Zealand who's mother had been taken into ICU in Manchester UK. Asking me call the hospital and find out as much as I can just because that call came in at 7:56 so I could clap along with the rest of my family.

Oh and Thank You for asking how my friends Mum is. She had a stroke and is doing better than expected incase any of you are interested".

Her friend called DD, gave her name as person to liaise with because she knew she was the closest person to Manchester. Friends Mum lives alone and other relatives are older, live further away and would only start to worry.

Good choice to call DD she's very clam and business like when needed but DD wasn't on the doorstep when "They" thought she should be. Don't think people on DD's local FB had ever known DD go into business mode. LOL

We non of us know what is happening in the lives of others but I do think this situation has given some people permission to take the high ground.

Oh and I washed my car, on my property, because I could :-) Haven't done much else even though I have lots to do.

Perceive not precieve

geekesse do you live in Cheshire by any chance? Because it would be a shame if there was more than one area that seems to have grasped the rules, clutched them closely and derives great delight in naming and shaming anyone that they precieve to have breached them. These include people walking across fields that are not within a 5 minute walk from their homes --there are public footpaths across them--; walking through the woods --they're open to the public--; riding their bicycles along the cycle track . These, and many more, have been named and complained about on our local Facebook pages time and time again. And then they complain that there are too many people walking down the streets and because they're so narrow, people are having to step in the road! You can't win! It's actually been suggested that a set of stocks and a ducking stool be set up at the village pond. And I'm not at all sure that they're joking.

Nontana2 oh, I so agree with you - some people are definitely loving the rules! Sadly, The Handmaid's Tale no longer looks so far fetched ?

I saw someone local to me asking on Facebook if they are allowed to wash their car or cut their grass.
Everyone said whyever not, as long as you are socially distanced.
I thought the person who asked was just being very nervous, but perhaps they had come across some of this ridiculous advice.

Wow that's such an interesting thought! I live in a village where a lot of extended families live and I see parents leaning over fences to talk to their kids all the time from some, and angry Facebook rants from others who also have seen that. Do people really expect people to stay in doors if they live next door to loved ones? If they aren't within 2 meters what is the problem? It's exhausting.

Hetty, just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean it's not happening, any more than geekesse having seen it proves that it has! .

The best (or worst) place for this sort of thing is local Facebook pages. Mine is a toxic place at best, where local busybodies like nothing better than to name and shame 'transgressors', and signal their own virtue from the highest towers. Since the virus, things have got even worse. I can't post sources, as it is a private group, but a couple of examples include a woman complaining that people 'who didn't need them' were 'taking' delivery slots for groceries. When it was all unpicked, it turned out that she had been unable to get one, despite never having used the service before, and was annoyed at her neighbour for carrying on as she had always shopped. The complainer had no idea about the circumstances of those using the service anyway. Without access to medical records, she couldn't possibly know whether people had underlying conditions, and neither could she know about other circumstances, such as access to a car for click and collect etc.

Another example is someone complaining about a woman who didn't go out to clap. The woman had her reasons, which are nobody's business but her own, but still, she was publicly called to account. It makes my blood boil, really - who do these moralists think they are? And why is 'their way' the only one that is 'morally right'?

The virus has made me realise just how easily a sinister government could get people to turn against one another, and how close we are to puritans with pillories for 'moral transgressors'.

The car washing thing was the idiot Dr Hilary - but where are the reports of the many people who insist others tramp the streets instead of walking round a local park providing its easily accessible by foot and you can keep 2m away from others?

Hetty58, you have clearly never enjoyed the glint of sunshine on a newly waxed car, while you sit and sip a long G&T and stretch your aching arms. (Was on, wax off...)

The car thing: metro.co.uk/2020/04/15/piers-morgan-livid-dr-hilary-jones-insists-keeps-aston-martin-dirty-shouldnt-wash-car-coronavirus-lockdown-12558530/

Other stuff - plenty of GN posts.

I think this is what’s now called a ‘purity spiral’. There’s only way of doing things and anything else is just wrong.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Purity%20Spiral