Rise of po-faced moralising?

Yes Coolio007, £30 is a pathetic amount for a fine, just a little slap on the wrist.

Blimey, what a read this thread is!

Our fines here for breaking the law of Civil Disobedience is between 670 and 730 euros. As this is nearly as much as the monthly salary here you don’t see a lot of problems. That said there have been fines. We are on serious curfew now 1/5-3/5 as it’s a bank holiday weekend so we are only allowed out locally. Maybe, if the fines were heavier in the UK then people would think twice.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/30/uk-police-receive-200000-calls-from-lockdown-snitchers

Lovely idea about the cake crafty.?

I think all round its good to realise that the stuff that lands in our lap comes through others hard work.

In order for us to have what we need to stay in someone else has to go out and make it happen.

I think awareness about whats happening in post depots and water treatment facilities etc is a different and more valid concern than calling the police because someone went out in their car twice in one week

In fairness the manager of the local waterworks was interviewed on tv and said that half his staff were sick with the virus and the other half working round the clock to ensure the water was safe to drink. They were also sleeping onsite as they didn’t want to infect their own families. He asked that people conserved water where possible.

Our local Facebook pages have done an enormous amount of good helping people any way they can and letting people know when shops/businesses are open.

The actual road we live in is the least friendly I have ever experienced. I’ve lost track of time and not joined in the clapping TWICE now so no doubt will be next in the stocks.

Ive seen complaints on local facebook page about footpaths being closed or people speeding through town but no- one has been ‘named and shamed’

Not many that should say

pollyperkinsit's not any in my village and its the same ones who always moan about everything anyway so because no one listens they get louder and louder

It doesn't happen here either.

Although I had heard of the couple of incidents where the police were a bit over-zealous. It's probably better than not doing anything.

Well I’m amazed. This is the first I've heard of any unpleasantness regarding the current situation - it certainly doesn't happen where I live. Everybody has been pleasant and helpful , many picking up shopping and prescriptions for those who are self isolating. Most of us come out to clap in Thursdays but not all by any means and I've not heard any criticism. The village and local town facebook pages have been friendly and helpful too - in fact Ive never seen any unpleasantness on facebook at all. The only nastiness Ive seen has been on gransnet Im afraid , where everyone is anonymous.

Re post: post workers really are struggling with the double whammy of increased demand plus being slowed down by trying to put distancing measures in place so people should be considerate and think twice about what they post

Re sitting in parks/beaches: some people can only walk short distances at a time and need breaks, others spend most of the day in enclosed small homes and need air & vit D. I really dont see the problem with sitting on your own picnic blanket or stool. Can see why public benches might be a problem

Someone has been leaving bags of dog poo on the fence beside our house for weeks.
They seem to be out early in the morning, as we can't catch them.
How irresponsible! Who do they think cleans it up? ?

I remember the posts about how sending cards was endangering lives. That’s a ‘purity spiral’ I referred to earlier. I’m about to mail four (yes, four ) sympathy letters. At these times, a phone call or email just doesn’t cut it.

My dd has just started work in a hospital as a newly qualified doctor. She says that apart from the CV wards, which aren’t themselves that busy, it’s like a ghost town and staff are getting bored. On some wards there are more staff than patients!

Speaking of taking bagged poo home ExD we take our dogs on a lovely walk an 8 minute car drive away so they can both be let off their leads, and keep seeing used poo bags hanging from trees and gates. I mean what is wrong with some people.

Were we actually told NOT to sit on a bench? If so, why?
Yes, a woman in Bristol who rested on a bench when out for a walk was told to get up and move on by the police.
And many benches have red and white tape across them, just in case anyone should sit down, presumably too near to someone else sitting on there.

Who would do that? If you saw someone sitting on a bench you'd move on and find an empty one. Or if someone looked as if they might sit on 'your' bench you'd get up and move on.

I think I'll order one of those sticks that turns into a seat for when I'm allowed out again.
If my backside has not expanded too much by then.

Presumably because if one person can sit or sunbathe on the grass then everyone else should be able to. It becomes very hard to manage social distancing if 100 people decide to lie on the same stretch of grass - easier for everyone to understand ‘no lying on the grass’ as opposed to your can lie on the ground but make sure you keep 2 metres away from everyone at all times and that includes walking to and from your spot past the other 99 people’ .

growstuff this is a complete different group of snoopers - quite obviously left wingers who are up there with the ‘elf n safety and PC brigades.

We live on a farm and I can see no problem with anyone walking along a footpath across a field with a dog (on a lead if there is livestock about). However, I would appreciate it if they would wipe the gates so I could be less concerned that DH didn't pick up an infection when he opens them himself later. It's not difficult to carry a small pack of wipes in your pocket along with your poo bags.
(Oh and it'd be nice if said bags were taken home).
While I'm at it, why can't people sit in the sun for while, if they've no garden why not sit on the grass and enjoy the view? Surely no one could think that was wrong?
I don't live near the sea, but why can't people sunbathe on the beach as long as they are 2 meters away from other families?
Were we actually told NOT to sit on a bench? If so, why?

That is the same here except for disabled, Pregnant, and elderly who can sit for up to 30 minutes.
Although you can go out for more than one hour and more than once a day.

I heard something on a programme saying take your exercise on the open streets rather than walking in the usual dog field or tree area. I thought this silly as what harm is there to walk in the usual doggy field when out with the dog.
I still walk in the dog field and then some of the walk on the pavement.

Last week I thought I would take a walk with the dog up the street and then go to the doggy field. On the walk my dog was having a sniff and a few wees and so I was walking slowly and had to watch a youngish couple in full view leaning against a van cuddled up and hands all over each other and snogging the faces off each other. This in full sight of parents walking along with their children. I really could not care less what young couples do but when your getting up to that business do it in private.

Anyone from the morale brigade leave me alone I take a 5 minute drive to the local green area and trees and walk my dog and I do not have to watch young lovers getting their amorous moves on in face view of myself.

Perhaps we're not allowed to sit down when we're out and about.

"Keep moving, keep moving, sitting is not part of your one hour's exercise schedule."

Are the so-called do-gooders the same group of people who know what people "on benefits" have in their shopping trolleys, how much they smoke/drink and how wide their TV is? Or is this a different group of snoops?

The Thursday evening clapping happens here too, but is not as 'obligatory' as it seems to have become in the UK.
We have not done it but we have heard car horns etc.
We do get lots of music played from windows and balconies and an Opera singer friend has been singing to his neighbours on Thursday evenings.
Off for a walk with DGS, Deli today as he wants to sleep here tonight and we fancy something different for dinner.
Stay safe everyone, I feel a lot better today after all the support I received the other day, thanks.

I have made a few online orders for vegetable seeds, small plants and stuff from our local garden centre. They have a very clear statement about their covid19 precautions, are very busy delivering orders sensibly, locally. They had the stock already and it would have been composted had it not been sold online. Can't see any problem with that, it may help a local family owned business to survive this situation. I do admit to some confusion about the rules/interpretation of them regarding open spaces. Example; there was a report locally of a couple being moved on by the Police as a result of a call made; the couple, who lived in a flat, were sitting on the grass, bang in the middle of a huge open space, no other people near, just two of them who lived in the same household, no picnic, no bbq, just sitting with a takeaway coffee. I cannot see why this was a contravention of sensible distancing.

I have mentioned this on another thread.

A neighbour reported the people in my cul de sac to the police, for not observing Covid regulations.
He informed the police, family were visiting myself and my neighbours.
What he did not know, is a number of us are sheilding and family were bringing food and medication. ?
The police, went around everyone checking and were very supportive and apologetic, when they realised the truth.

Life is difficult enough, without having to deal with this nastiness. My DIL is now terrified to come down with shopping, as is my neighbour's daughter, as he is always spying on us.