Paid nannies OK to look after a child in thir own home real nannies are not!

If they are providing all the childcare so the parents can go out to work its childcare.

If they are doing a day a week to give WFH mum/dad "a break" etc its social childcare.

P.s. every body whose parents babysit "to give them a break" does it for the GPs benefit. Its social. Its not because the parents need it.

Rosalyn I think that's the point. Hancock came up with something a bit garbled this morning, but what he was saying was that the government didn't want grandparents to look after their grandchildren because most of them will be in a more vulnerable category.

I was querying what you meant by “nannie babysitting" isnt childcare at all its socialising. And socialising is still off the cards. If a nannie (as opposed to a professional Nanny) is providing childcare while the parent/s are at work then that’s childcare, not socialising.

What makes it socialising rather than childcare?

Its a formal agreement.
& You usually cover the full weeks childcare requirement (if a child goes to nursey 4 days a week then nanny has her day on fridays. Nanny is just being nanny and being given a day to spend with GC. Nanny is not "the childcare" there. Nursery is.

I have suggested to my DD ( in jest) that she could employ me as their nanny or cleaner, then I’d be allowed in their house.
Not all nannies or cleaners are young

nannies and cleanera who are in shielding categories are not returning to work.

If you have your GC who usually go to nursery/childminders a day a week, or for a sleepover at weekends, thats socialising not formal childcare.

However if you do the daily childcare to cover your ACs whole working week. Same as a professional would. And are young (I know grandparents in their 30s and 40s and 50s) and arent shielding or working yourself and can cover the full weekly requirements of childcare. That makes you their childminder/nanny. And you can go back to work.

A day a week... you were never their childminder/nanny. That waa for you to socialise with your GC.

What makes it socialising rather than childcare?

if you formally care for your grandchildren and arent in a shislding group you CAN go back to work.

However a lot of "nannie babysitting" isnt childcare at all its socialising. And socialising is still off the cards.

Its not unfair or illogical

Temporary medical condition - grammar argg

Grandmajayne

Does your sil work remotely and doesnt go home everyday?
Is there a temporal medical condition that justifies this move? If yes, why you not move to her?

In general, bad idea.

Your dd and sil have to cope with their kids and their jobs.
It is not like him going back to work is an unusual event

Aren’t paid nannies under 70?

Matt Hancock suggested on the BBC this morning that childminders need the income so that is why they should be used. Personally it’s a decision between me and my daughter. I’ve looked after my granddaughter one day a week at least for nearly 7 years so why should my daughter suddenly have to use or find paid childcare?

get off GN

Good advice, I haven't done anything much this morning!

I need a piano nanny too - someone to tell me to get off GN, put that book/knitting down and practise for half an hour, or no chocolate!
(Dh and I getting very piggily addicted to Fruit and Nut lately.)

Grandmajayne that depends on how old you are if you have any health issues or any other factors which might make you high risk. If you are under 65 and fit it might be OK for them all to move in with you even if the partner is still working. Although I would think as your DD and baby need shielding as well he should take great care.
Can't see there is any conflict between a professional nanny and a gran. If you really want to care full time for your GCs you could always ask for payment

I agree with Urmstongran and Hithere.
Im very pleased that my toddler grandchild has Paid professional childcare. She loves her carer and there's no way that I (mid 70s) would want to look after her every day in a London flat especially at the moment, though I miss her of course and would love a cuddle.

Some grandparents are teachers and they are being asked to work to look after other people’s grandchildren but cannot see their own.

Can you teach up to Grade 5 gillybob?
We need a piano nanny (for me)
I may not practice my scales though.

Grandmajayne

If they all moved in with you, then your daughter’s partner would not be able to visit his children I would have thought.

Well I’m with Maw and HiThere on this topic.
I’m 65y and more than happy that our 3y old granddaughter will be back to her professional childminder (who is around 45y) when the time comes in a few weeks.

I’m a grandmother. Not a surrogate mum. I never wanted to be factored in for childcare. That’s not my role although I love her to bits!
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I don't think a professional nanny would be less likely to have physical contact with a baby/ toddler than a grandmother, they have to change nappies/ feed/ dress etc just same.

A piano nanny .....well that’s a whole other profession .

Meant “paid” of course .

So what if you were a 50 something paid nanny? Could my DD slip me a few £ and I will be a piano nanny?

It was the title of the thread which was questionable - hence my post.
A nanny is a trained professional.
A grandmother is a relative, not always elderly, as has been pointed out most firmly on GN.

Those nannies (and grandads) in their 50s and 60s are still at work, surely? If it’s too risky for them to look after their DGC does that mean it’s too risky for them to work outside the home?

Can I ask advice please my daughter is 5 months pregnant and has a 2 year old and a 8 month old baby. Her partner is going back to work this week and I was wondering would it be safe for her and the children to move in with me. We have both followed all the rules and not been in contact with anyone else. I feel she needs emotional support as well as physical support. What are people's thoughts?