Paid nannies OK to look after a child in thir own home real nannies are not!

They will have had ....

Oh absolutely LadyGracie Thryveill have had a nanny arranged months ahead and now Carrie will be tired of doing it all herself .

On the other hand my DD us being hounded into going back to work . They refuse to furlough her ( as they want her back ) and yet I am not allowed to provide the childcare as I normally would .

Here's a thing... we have been living safely for 10 weeks now. My daughter rang to say nursery is reopening and her employer has said she has to return to work. So, oldest goes to nursery but youngest doesn't. I normally care for her in collaboration with granny2. Daughter and partner and kids have all been staying safe too but now will be exposed to other kids and adults. I have to have the little one or daughter may lose her job. I therefore now have to go from safety to what feels like being quite exposed in the next 2 weeks. I'm not a wimpy kid but I do feel very nervous. Daughter feels incredible guilt too. Its thrown us completely. We'd planned in our heads we wouldn't have to tackle this until September. Can anyone reassure me??

Surely it's about using some common sense? Anyone who has seen how things are on Covid wards would surely want to avoid going there? Age is a high risk factor and at some other have to recognise that, especially in the next few weeks.

Alternatively you could put your house on the market for sale and arrange your family to come and view it at half past 4 on Sunday, then take it back off the market until the following weekend! Utter madness!

Apparently an estate agent can come and show people round your house. So if your relatives are estate agents you can invite them. Except in Wales and Scotland of course (but then you'd have to clean the house as well!)

Of course, if any of your children or grandchildren are good at cleaning does that mean they can come and clean for you?
Except in Wales or Scotland where we have to do our own or remain mucky.

kittylester your cleaner an come back but don't let your children in the house. They have to sit in the garden!

All professional carers are registered

Now actually its not that straightforward and in part depends on whether you childmind in the childs own home or your own amongst other things.

Not all nannies are REQUIRED to be OFSTEAD registered as they work im the childs own home but if they arent you cant claim childcare vouchers to pay for them.

However OFSTEAD registered nannies usually want full time contracts. If you work part time you might not have the option of an Ofstead nanny.

Even if you take children into your own home for money there are exceptions. Certain types of wrap around care is exempt. E.g. if you take children in the morning an hour before school run.

Can my cleaner come back - pretty please! I promise not kiss or hug her.

Meant to say apart from nannies who can register if they wish.
If I was employing one I would want one who had registered.

Any grandparent taking payment for childcare has to be registered with their local authority.
All professional carers are registered.

Do you think it’s been allowed to have nannies because Boris wants to employ one.

I do like Boris, I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes at the moment!

I agree with you notanan2; I do the ‘dull stuff’ you described my day perfectly in your post , 4 long full days per week, whilst the ‘ other’ gran does the fun stuff once a month.

Teachers these days of delayed pension age are still required to work at 50’s 60’s despite not being as young as they once were Maw!,

If you have to ask/question/argue, youre not the childcare.

If youre the childcare theres no doubt. Its a job! And money IS usually involved even if its just expenses to cover extra food/electricity and activities.

The GPs who do a day/sleepover and tell everyone theyre doing it "to give the parents a break" now just have to admit that the arrangement was really "to give ME time with GC" all along.

MayBee yes it was go back to work as soon as possible if its safe and you cant work from home AND youre not from one of the industries who are to remain closed.

Its not a mass Nanny invasion 8am Wednesday like on "who will buy" on Oliver Twist grin

An asthmatic nanny to clingy toddler twins may not be going back for some time.

A nanny to supervise older home schooling children may go back immediately

Childcare is part of the work force that is going back to work.

It has nothing to do with access to gc.

if anything growstuff the GPs who have fun days full of activities for "their day" are least likely to be childcarers.

Childcare GPs are picking mushed bananas out of the bottoms of school bags and bringing odd shoes up the school to try to get the pair retrieved etc. Doesnt leave as much time or energy for pottery and learning to use weigh scales as the ones who get "their day"

Doesn't it depend what they do when they babysit? If they make sure the children don't do anything dangerous, direct some of their activities, feed them, etc. isn't that childcare? If they stick them in front of the TV for a couple of hours, it's probably just babysitting.

No.

It doesnt matter if you bake 20 cakes, do a nature hunt, teach french etc on "granny & Timmy day".

A day a week to give yoi time together is social. for your benefit. Even if its a day parents are at work/working from home.

If you are "working" by having your GC all the hours the parents work out of the home. Day in day out. Doing the dull stuff like dropping to preschool as well as the fun stuff lile chasing butterflies. Thats childcare.

You know which you are.

"but childminders breath air and so do I ergo Im a childminder.." - you know youre reaching

Grandparents are emotionally invested, so hugging, kissing and all the physical contact. Nannies, childminders etc. are not. Whether it’s possible to keep the safe distance though, I would think quite a challenge.

I always thought of the "socialising" aspect of nurseries as socialising with other children.

I really dont believe that posters dont understand this. I think all the "but but but.." is for arguements sake but I think everyone truely does get the difference.

Its okay to be upset about it but I think people should stop pretending that its hard to grasp the difference between little Xs day with granny so the 2 can spend tims together (social) and the grandparenta who provide professional level CHILDCARE (e
g. my neighbours GCs are dropped at hers at 6am every weekday on parents commute and picked up around 6pm. They do all the dull stuff: gettting them breakfasted and into uniform, do school run, collect from school run, dinner & homework. Monday to friday. THAT is "childcare".

Doesn't it depend what they do when they babysit? If they make sure the children don't do anything dangerous, direct some of their activities, feed them, etc. isn't that childcare? If they stick them in front of the TV for a couple of hours, it's probably just babysitting.

I think theres a lot of disingenuity on this thread.

People want a loophole to see their GCs.

If you were "the childcare provider" you would know. Its a job. A big commitment. Paid or not. The people who do this know who they are.

If you are arguing that "granny day" every second thursday when GC is taken out of nursery to have a day with you is "no different to what nannies or childminders do" then you know youre reaching

I always thought of the "socialising" aspect of nurseries as socialising with other children.

everybody I know that should read

They agree to this "to give you a break" babysitting. They dont require it