What social distancing?

Your welcome Maddyone. I agree with Dorset there is two distinct camps. And whoisthis sums up the other camp clearly! Take care Dorset very difficult to know what to do but please make sure when u do return they have PPE.

They would certainly be distancing if someone close to them got the virus. Mysteriously. I'm in wales and we have different laws but they are stricter and some do get confused. Then all the emergency services in full PPE turn up, fill the street with vehicles & medics, an air ambulance lands nearby. Sadly the person died. Everyone of those emergency officers were crying. I have never seen so much compassion. A female GP in a flimsy apron , mask and gloves, rolled down their overalls carefully disposed of them and visors in special bags.
We had suddenly lost a lovely neighbour. The areas they covered were disinfected down as you see on TV. Don't ever be flippant about the infectiousness of this virus.

Our GPs must be supplied with much better PPE or we are going to lose many to this pandemic. The emergency services are better equipped to save lives at home now and we will see many more of these dranas on our streets.

It's not going away here, those who die in the community are not recorded for some weeks. Capacity in our hospitals is still low because many medical staff are away which is why our lockdown rules still apply.

Dorsetcupcake61
Oh how I feel for you. What a difficult position for you. I know I can’t advise you really, but anyway my advice would be for you to stay away from work for a while longer. Care home work is very much on the front line and as you are high risk you need to take every care. I’d advise you to ignore the ignorant posts on here saying we need to get back to normal. My daughter and her husband are doctors, much younger than you, and not high risk, but they are seeing possible Coronavirus patients and confirmed Coronavirus patients. Their three small children are six years and under. I worry about them all the time because so many medical staff have died from this virus, and when ignorant people speak about getting back to normal I fear for them more. The virus hasn’t gone away and with ignorant behaviour it is likely to spike again. I hope not, but I fear it will. Keep yourself safe Dorset and remember that your bosses aren’t too concerned about you, so you need to be concerned about you. Stay safe.

Dorset Cupcake
Yes I agree with you .The post I sent previously was a tongue in cheek email sent from someone illustrating how confusing and contradictory the rules were .It is all about common sense it appears that some are nt as alert as others and have no consideration .Take care we ll be out of this one day albeit differently.I won’t take anything for granted again

I read this post a few hours ago,coincidentally my neighbours appear to have restarted building work that stopped before lockdown. Absolutely no social distancing,lots of Van's coming and going. That's up to them.
I do wonder if those that are concerned,like me,are worried about deeper issues.
Since this all kicked off there seem to have been two distinct camps,those that think they should be able to carry on as normal regardless and those realise potential consequences of doing that. I wonder how many of those who feel "let's get back to it" are genuinely at risk? Do they have negotiate public transport to low paid frontline jobs where in all likelihood social distancing not be effective? Or are they able to pop into their cars to the local farm shop? Do they have a secure regular income from whatever source? Or are they facing an uncertain financial future unless they take risks that in ordinary circumstances wouldnt consider?
We all are experiencing this pandemic differently. For some its practical financial concerns,others health,others social.
I'm 58 and high risk but not enough to be shielded.I work part time in a care home. To get there and back would involve four buses. The care home is one of four. So far eleven residents have died. I'm basically on unpaid leave and told to come back when I feel safe! I'm in contact with my union,employers supposed to risk assess my safety to be at work/find safer role. The government says I should stringently social distance. Not really possible in care role or on public transport. The only way I could find out if it's safe is to put myself at risk. I should add that in all my communications with employer no mention has been made of there being Coronavirus in building let alone deaths.
I know staff have left and I do wonder if they felt they had little choice as environment not safe. I do know the employers let them leave without the usual draconian measures they have in place.
This morning I woke up and turned on news and started to doubt my own sanity. The push to return to "normal" seems overwhelming,it feels like a constant nudge. Alongside this items on how serious virus is and how firms building isolation pods for hospitals and ongoing concerns about care homes.
I'm an intelligent and on the whole positive person. Throughout this situation have been able to count my blessings which fortunately include a small amount of savings to live on.
Today for the first time I shed tears,I feel between a rock and a hard place. I'm heartily sick of ambiguous or downright false information from both my employer and official sources. In between tears there is a strange urge to rush headfirst into work maybe it really is ok. In reality I can bide my time for a while but everything seems uncertain and bleak.

I don’t think I said it’s JUST flu maddyone. I said it is a flu type virus, which I believe all the corona viruses are.

I guess they vary in severity and as I said, this one can be particularly nasty for those already in poor health, yet many people apparently have no symptoms whatsoever.

I stand by my opinion that getting the economy back on track is the number one priority now, or the younger generation will suffer the consequences for decades.

Builders working in the open air meet with a relatively smaller virus load. When people meet others in the open air the virus load is less and physical distancing consequently matters less.

Unfortunately it is a fact many people need specific rules to obey, and this makes it harder to urge people to use their common sense. Common sense depends on basic knowledge of virology, which is a closed book for many.

Well said Rosyln. Worry about yourself and not others.

Thank you for understanding what I was saying Jishere and grabba.

I would have to agree that there are still an awful lot of people putting money before health.
Also a fair few who feel the rules don't apply to them.
As the partner of a key worker I find it appalling the lack of thought being displayed by the 'it's just a virus' ' I won't get it' 'it's not that dangerous' brigade.

Medics, if you actually know any JenniferEccles, categorically deny that Coronavirus is just flu. Maybe get your facts rights before you post.

Alanav Maddyones comment was observational not a whinge or whine. And the essence of the comment is: why are they not social distancing? Following the rules, workers have been given Not they shouldn't be at work.
We have a new guy at work who hasn't found his feet and he was in a small office with 3 work man who were not following any guidelines. Well they were taking the mick as they knew only one person should have been in there at a time and wearing PPE. All to get there job quicker.
Please stop judging and read the comment for what it actually says. Everyone has a right to install social distancing.

And those very people will expect people like my daughter and son in law to treat them if they become sick with Coronavirus. And in doing so, medics put themselves at risk. My daughter and her husband have got three little children. Some of you are talking about feeding children, well my grandchildren could have no parents left to feed them if they pick up Coronavirus from stupid people who can’t be bothered to socially distance. How selfish is that?

smile I would agree, you can legislate for just about everything but not for stupidity

Is it time to put all this in perspective? Covid19 is a flu type virus not the plague!

Yes it can be a nasty virus for a tiny minority of the population but the vast majority of people who catch it will make a full recovery.

The daily death rates are alarming but the fact is a lot of people who sadly died actually died of something else, in effect they died WITH Covid19 not FROM it.

If the country doesn’t get back to work soon then millions of people will be affected with businesses going under along with all the associated job losses.

Great posts Bobdoesit and Granval.
Indeed, some people, including people on Gransnet, must be, to put it bluntly, thick.

The government have advised people to go to work if the work can’t be done at home and if it is safe to do so. Pretty clear to me.
People with your attitude ALANaV are the very people who will ensure the virus continues to infect others and spread. No, we can’t go on like this forever can we? Better that people just get the virus, so what! Till it’s you or yours, and then people will whine that the government should have done more.
The many examples given on this thread have shown how the selfish and irresponsible behave. And judging by some of the comments on here, it would appear that some Gransnetters are clapping them on. I’d have thought better of supposedly mature people.

That’s a great post .. spot on !!

It’s ‘upsetting ‘ to say the least that some people seem to think they are immune .... we have tried hard to observe the rules .. people while shopping for instance seem to totally forget distancing till they get to the checkouts ... neighbours having parties and having neighbours round .. kids playing with neighbours kids ... I don’t understand why people are ignoring advice .. we will all be stuck in again if there a second wave in the winter ... it’s depressing to think about .

This from Facebook just about sums it up:
A new virus which is spreading a hundred times quicker than Coronavirus has been discovered, the imasthickasshit virus affects people’s ability to social distance properly. People with the imasthickasshit virus will go out to parks and beauty spots in their droves with no worries about spreading the virus. Doctors thank that Coronavirus and imasthickasshit virus could be connected but are worried by the speed imasthickasshit virus is spreading. Please keep well clear, stay safe my friends.

Rosalyn...I TOTALLY agree with you …..please stop whingeing and wining about what your neighbours do and concentrate on what YOU do …...this is getting ridiculous …...scientists are now saying all kinds of different things about how this virus spreads ...being incarcerated indoors is the worst thing ..fresh air is best …...can't go on like this forever things have to move on …….like it or not !

The difference between rules in England and Scotland has already caused us family differences of opinion about what is/is not ok as perspectives of what is ‘normal’ have suddenly diverged. Life down south and all the changes that are happening sound a world away from the lockdown bubble we’re still in in Scotland. Where I live there is more traffic but still few people out, lots of social distancing on walks and buses are still empty.

Throughout lockdown I have seen a white van at a house along the road from me. Various workmen coming and going. Lots of chatting in groups. I think the house is being renovated. I Wont bother the police with reporting though. I know from my son they are inundated with reports and cant follow them up.

Workmen along my road laying new gas pipes, not social distancing. Standing close together just chatting. No PPE. House across the road having front garden landscaped and workmen are just standing close to each other, chatting. Owner came out and handed them cups of tea and he joined in the conversation. This must be going on all over the country. I cannot believe it.

Similar near me, 4 weeks ago a couple in our street had builders in, as the finished off they could be heard in their back garden, laughing and joking for around an hour, after which they came out and loaded their van up. Not too sure but I think she works for the NHS. Across the road from me a single woman with a young daughter had about 6 children in her house and were also riding their bikes up and down the street while a man sat on her doorstep watching them. I think he is a relative because I have seen him before.