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What social distancing?

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maddyone Mon 18-May-20 14:53:48

This morning I awoke to the sound of builders working at a house across the road from our house. There appear to be five builders dismantling and rebuilding an extension at the back of the house. We watched out of interest for a few minutes. The builders were not wearing any protective equipment, no face masks or gloves. They were not abiding by any
social distancing whatever, so frequently standing together in a group or working side by side. The owner of the house appeared and stood immediately next to one of the builders talking. We didn’t watch long, essentially not really our business, but we commented on what we regard as a lack of responsibility. Later in the morning a large delivery vehicle brought building supplies to the house, and again the driver stood immediately next to one of the builders talking. A simple look through our windows suggest this will be going on for a number of days.

I know people have said the rules/guidelines are confusing, but surely these builders and the owners of the house understand social distancing. Construction workers were given the green light to return to work providing they can work and remain socially distanced. There is not even the most basic attempt to socially distance themselves at the house across the road from us. It doesn’t seem like rocket science to me, but it would appear it’s too difficult to understand for them, including the house owner. No wonder the virus continues to infect people. Meanwhile we can’t help our own daughter and her husband who are often working twelve hour shifts; they are working with Covid19 patients and other patients. They are struggling with long days, three very small children, trying to teach their children two days a week, delivering children to different childcare sites before and after work, and of course all the daily tasks in running a home. And the worry that they may contract Covid19. The irresponsible behaviour of people such as these builders will make us all need to stay at home and behave responsibly for longer, and their irresponsible behaviour will keep my daughter and her husband working themselves to exhaustion for longer.

Jillybird Tue 19-May-20 11:38:09

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Alishe Tue 19-May-20 11:22:36

Wondered how long it would be before ‘Brexit’ got linked to the pandemic!

3nanny6 Tue 19-May-20 11:22:01

VictorMthe2nd read your post that is what it is like out-there now at first in lockdown it was so quiet and most people were doing things well apart from a minority.
Jishere is right people have now got to the stage where they have heard the new rules "stay Alert etc, and go out as much as you like to exercise and meet family in the park. People are behaving as if all the social distancing is over.

We have medium sized tennis court near my area and three times I have seen a group of 11 males using it as a cricket play area. No social distancing all running about enjoying themselves. Another day two males were using the tennis court but had tied the two dogs to the fencing and they were getting distressed.
I have twice e-mailed the parish council who are in charge of that certain amenity and told them what is going on but have had no response.
I see that someone here on the thread mentioned about telling police about these behaviours, someone correct me if I am wrong but I am sure I heard that now the new rules have been applied the police are no longer involved with people being outside and exercising etc and no longer have any powers over that kind of thing.

Aepgirl Tue 19-May-20 11:21:07

A lot of people didn’t ‘bother with social distancing’. That’s fine by me provided they realise that they can be carriers without having the virus themselves, and that the NHS does not need stupid people like that not helping the situation.

maddyone Tue 19-May-20 11:18:30

Jishere
Hear, hear. Two balanced and sensible posts.

maddyone Tue 19-May-20 11:17:10

sarahhelenwhitney

Another person who is both rude and completely unable to retain the information that I have now written THREE times. I’m not a windowwatcher, I was opening my curtains in the morning. Are you suggesting I leave them closed all day?

Jishere Tue 19-May-20 11:14:17

How is that nice to refer to people as window watchers Sarahellenwhitney or Rosalyn spies? There is works going on down my road, I can hear it but I can also see it when I walk past but also if I strain my neck I can see it from my window! Isn't time we stopped judging people this post was about social distancing and builders lack of it.

maddyone Tue 19-May-20 11:13:26

Paperbackwriter
......twitching the curtains...

I have already said, TWICE, for those that can’t retain information, that I saw the builders opposite as I opened the curtains. Are you suggesting I don’t open my curtains in the morning?
I find the self righteous and holier than thou attitude on here appalling. Several posters, I won’t embarrass you all by naming you, have the attitude that if people want to ignore the guidelines and ignore social distancing, then that’s just fine and dandy. Well I don’t think it’s fine and dandy for idiots to not care less about social distancing because whilst those who are young and fit may well survive Covid19, many of the others that they pass the virus to may not. But hey, that’s fine isn’t it? We can’t be locked into permanent social distancing can we?
If you disagree with me, DON’T clap on Thursday night for our NHS and key workers, because you don’t care if the virus continues to infect them due to idiots like the builders opposite to me can’t be arsed to socially distance.

4allweknow Tue 19-May-20 11:09:28

Perhaps all the builders have had the virus and consider themselves immune! Doubt it myself. Isn't it the old "I'm a man and won't get it" syndrome. The householder should be held responsible for basically allowing people to break the rules. Use the reporting system.

Jishere Tue 19-May-20 11:05:26

VictorMthe2nd what you are describing is what it is like to venture out of my house, just to go shopping. People do not care. I had a parent and child on bike wheeze past me, not once but twice in close range. As i walk i wonder who is going to move over, it is usually me. The classic is someone wearing a mask but leaning right over you in the supermarket. Yes Boris is to blame because you can exercise as much as you want and stay alert is a whole different concept from stay home. People are eager to get back to normal but will this come at a cost!! There is too much frustration out there to physically put your hand out to anyone, it isn't worth it.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 19-May-20 11:02:37

Rosalyn69.
Agree.
I wonder do these window watchers ever thinkhmm these guys have families who need feeding and a rent/ mortgage to pay.NOT everyone is fortunate to have work that can be done at home.

Jellybean345 Tue 19-May-20 10:56:28

This is a long reply but someone sent me this Titled ‘As clear as Mud
4 year olds can go to school ,but university students who have paid for the tuition they have nt had and the accommodation they are nt living in,can t go to University.
A teacher can go to school with many 4 year olds they are not related to, but can’t see one 4 year old they are related to .
You can sit in a park from Tuesday but by Wednesday that ll be fine.
You can meet one person from another households for a chat or to sunbathe ,but not two people so if you know two people from another household you have to pick your favourite.
Hopefully,you’re also their favourite from your house hold or this could be awkward .But possibly you re not .But as I can’t get closer than 2m to the one you choose anyway you would nt think of having the other one sat next to them would matter-unless two people would restrict you eyeline too much and prevent you from being alert.
You can work all day with your colleagues, but you can’t sit in their garden for a chat after work . You can now do unlimited exercise when frankly just doing an hour a day feels like you are some sort of fitness guru.I can think of lots of things that I would like to be unlimited but exercise is nt one of them .
You can drive to other destinations,although which destinations is unclear .
The buses are still running past your house,but you should nt get on one .We should just let empty buses drive around.
It will be soon time to quarantine people coming into the country by air ..but not yet .Its too soon .And note we if you’re coming from France because ..well,I don’t know why ,actually.Because the French version of Corona Virus would nt come to the UK maybe .
Our youngest children go back to school first because .. they are notoriously good at not touching things they should nt ,maintain personal space at all times and never randomly lick you.
We are somewhere between 3.5 and 4.5 on a five point scale where 5 is all of the virus and 1 is none of the virus,but 2,3and 3can be anything you d like it to be really .Someof the virus?A bit of the virus ?Just enough virus to see off those over 70 s who were told to self isolate but now realised that they ve done that a bit too well despite us offloading coronavirus into care jones and now we are claiming that was never said in the first place .even though it’s in writing in the stay at home guidance.
The slogan is nt stay at home any more ,so we don’t have to stay at home .Except we do .Unless we can’t in which case we should go out .But there will be fines if we break the rules.So don’t do that
Don’t forget ....
Stay alert .which Robert Jenrick has explained actually means Stay at home as much as possible .Obviously.
Control the virus.Wel I can’t even control my digs and I can actually see them.PlusI know a bit about dogs and very little about controlling viruses.
Save lives .Always preferable time not saving lives.I d say ,so I ll try my best with that one,although hopefully I don’t new telling to do that I know I m bragging now but not NOT saving lives is something I do every day .
So there you are .If you re the wierdo wanting unlimited exercise then enjoy.But not until Wednesday .Obviously.
Hope you all don’t mind this very long post ,thank you for bearing with me , thought it would just clarify everything !
Me I m just going back to my cave .

Paperbackwriter Tue 19-May-20 10:54:25

All we can do is the best we can to protect ourselves. This might well include stepping away from twitching the curtains and building up a huge steam of outrage at what others are doing. Find something else to occupy you for the sake of your sanity.

Jishere Tue 19-May-20 10:52:46

Personally I wouldn't worry unless it affects you. I say this because whilst working two workers wanted to get in my office although they agreed only one the day before. They both had no ppe and obviously between them wasn't observing the social distancing. But alot of workers seem to think they are exempt and consider as they come to work together in van they have little or no regard for who's office they are going in.
I guess it's up to the person who's house it is to implement the rules. Although there seems to be a general air of everyone doing What they want, after Boriss bumbling speech.

VictorMthe2nd Tue 19-May-20 10:47:01

Each one of you commenting have every right in saying what you feel, so I will too!

I'm 69, and DH 74. Having completed the Playtex Moonwalk Full Moon 26.2 miles for several years raising thousands for the walkthewalk.org charity I walk around 20-25 miles each week and besides yoga and other activities, I keep fit and slim. Out of the blue I suffered a heart attack on Easter Monday and after an an Angiogram and Angioplasty I await bypass surgery when my Cardiologist deems it will be safe.

Due to medical and age reasons we stuck strictly to the rules and have been locked down for two months and we miss being able to hug our son and our grandchildren and my DH's 91 year old Aunt (who sadly died on Monday 11 May in a care home, distraught and unvisited too).

Advised to take exercise, on 9 May we walked through local woods onto a clearly defined footpath that ran through a field. Near the end there were two bikes on the ground millimetres off the path and next to them, lying down, a young woman with her small child sunbathing having a picnic without a care in the world or any thought for others. We had to veer off into the field and walk around them at a social distance.

On 10 May, we walked a different route in the hope we would not encounter a similar problem. We walked along an unmaintained pavement which was fairly narrow due to overgrown tall stinging nettle growth. A middle-aged male having a run approached us from the opposite direction, he should have known better but was obviously not going to stop for anyone, so we stepped back into the nettles. He was panting strongly, mouth open, and aggressively ran so close to me I was forced to ask “have you not heard of social distancing?” - even though he was inches away, he didn’t hear me as he had earphones on!

Last Sunday we walked through the same woods, footpath, and returned on the pavement too. There were several young couples lying on the footpath, so again we were forced to avoid them. The nettles had been cleared on the pavement and we noticed a young lad running towards us from behind so we stood still where we were up against the hedgerow, and this time, to thwart the real danger and risk to my health, I stuck my arm out and waited for him to pass. He didn’t try to avoid that, and hit my hand, so I asked “have you not heard about the metre social distancing?” With that I was told to “Fuck off” and running away like a coward from my angered DH who wanted to slug him, I also got the one finger sign. A truly ignorant young lad who didn’t seem to have had a decent upbringing and instead possessed a complete disregard to the wellbeing of us or others.

My DH is fit and lean but with diabetes type 2, AF, and heart problems. He contracted pneumonia after a bad bout of flu years ago, and will never forget fighting for his every breath in hospital with others dying around him, and he would not wish that on anyone including those mentioned - but no doubt they will be lucky and never catch pneumonia or contract C-19 - BUT each one could have passed it to one of us.

Why is it that people just don’t get it, where's the respect we were taught as kids, foul people spitting at wonderful key workers who sacrifice their lives for us or emergency service personnel and even the police just doing their jobs - it can't just be mixed messages from No 10?

vintageclassics Tue 19-May-20 10:42:00

I have a builder here at the moment - absolutely necessary or we'll have no working bathroom facility - he's kept his distance and been completely responsible - so have we - he's also our youngest son! I make no apology for having him here for essential repairs.

EMMYPEMMY Tue 19-May-20 10:41:34

I agree, we have to get back to some normality this virus is not going away. we cannot stay in lockdown for years ....

Gwenisgreat1 Tue 19-May-20 10:41:22

Our 'shielded' neighbour regularly has her teenage grandson staying over, having seen them out walking, there is no social distancing. I thought of her as an intelligent woman, but that and a neighbourly dispute makes me wonder.

Soozikinzi Tue 19-May-20 10:38:25

Children are all in Their homes I meant

Soozikinzi Tue 19-May-20 10:35:19

I actually think people have been really good about the lockdown here in Wigan anyway which is a very average kind of area . I’ve hardly seen a child they’re all in the homes . The shops all have screens and one way systems I think the general public have been pretty good about it all . You always get an odd idiot but most of us should be congratulated .

chris8888 Tue 19-May-20 10:33:42

I think some people have just given up following any guidelines. This has not been helped by the news that school are/opening for some in June. Not private schools of course, they open in Sept. Really! Why would anyone listen.

ReadyMeals Tue 19-May-20 10:33:00

Next door to me the builders seem to be occupying the house as a household during the work, but they do wear masks as well.

Nannieannie51 Tue 19-May-20 10:29:10

My husband, who had been in major construction management told the government when they first said construction should remain open that social distancing would not be possible on building sites. Either because of the nature of the work or lack of will to comply. The toilet facilities are usually disgusting too.
The construction industry drives the economy though. If you think of it. Right through from manufacturing to selling the end product. The government is happy to turn a blind eye to abuses otherwise it’ll never restart until a possible vaccination programme.
With the schools also due to reopen where social distancing is also going to be extremely difficult, in state schools at least.
I’m convinced the government is pursuing herd immunity.

Teddy123 Tue 19-May-20 10:26:08

I wouldn't report them either but I may delete them from my Christmas card list ?

rowanflower0 Tue 19-May-20 10:21:17

My son's are in construction, My elder son employing the younger. Although the older son is back at work, the younger son is still furrowed as they would be unable to maintain social distancing. They have their own kettle and he stays apart from the householders, he even drives home to use the toilet. The builders opposite you should be ashamed.