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What social distancing?

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maddyone Mon 18-May-20 14:53:48

This morning I awoke to the sound of builders working at a house across the road from our house. There appear to be five builders dismantling and rebuilding an extension at the back of the house. We watched out of interest for a few minutes. The builders were not wearing any protective equipment, no face masks or gloves. They were not abiding by any
social distancing whatever, so frequently standing together in a group or working side by side. The owner of the house appeared and stood immediately next to one of the builders talking. We didn’t watch long, essentially not really our business, but we commented on what we regard as a lack of responsibility. Later in the morning a large delivery vehicle brought building supplies to the house, and again the driver stood immediately next to one of the builders talking. A simple look through our windows suggest this will be going on for a number of days.

I know people have said the rules/guidelines are confusing, but surely these builders and the owners of the house understand social distancing. Construction workers were given the green light to return to work providing they can work and remain socially distanced. There is not even the most basic attempt to socially distance themselves at the house across the road from us. It doesn’t seem like rocket science to me, but it would appear it’s too difficult to understand for them, including the house owner. No wonder the virus continues to infect people. Meanwhile we can’t help our own daughter and her husband who are often working twelve hour shifts; they are working with Covid19 patients and other patients. They are struggling with long days, three very small children, trying to teach their children two days a week, delivering children to different childcare sites before and after work, and of course all the daily tasks in running a home. And the worry that they may contract Covid19. The irresponsible behaviour of people such as these builders will make us all need to stay at home and behave responsibly for longer, and their irresponsible behaviour will keep my daughter and her husband working themselves to exhaustion for longer.

Flakesdayout Tue 19-May-20 10:21:01

I don't spy on my neighbours but as I am home all day every day I do look out of my windows and have seen one of them have friends and family round some days and all over the weekend. I expect they could have been in the garden distancing, but not all day.? But its none of my business and if they catch or pass on anything horrible I hope they all survive. All the other neighbours have visitors that stay in the front garden and they are at the door. All of them do this. This lockdown is hard for us who have to remain at home and just watching the neighbourhood is a little bit of a pastime.

Houndi Tue 19-May-20 10:16:09

At the moment the hospital have the numbers now.At my husband they only have 3 covid patients.The peoblem is if the R rises by people not keeping social distancing.We wentvinto lockdown later we need to keep in place the same measures as Wales and Scotland instead of following europe

chattykathy Tue 19-May-20 10:11:44

Whether these builders are fit and healthy or not the point is they will be out and about around the shops etc and it seems doubtful they will be following other guidance such as hand washing, coughing into tissues. This is why the rate of infection is slow to come down. I'd keep well away from the neighbour for the foreseeable.

Nannan2 Tue 19-May-20 10:08:10

Anniebach,and then theyre possibly taking the virus home to their families.?

Missiseff Tue 19-May-20 10:07:54

The second wave will be chaotic. You can't educate stupid, I've stopped trying

Debutante Tue 19-May-20 10:07:08

Hi
I know the Corona virus has put peoples lives in limbo but still can’t stop thinking about life after and wonder if anyone else has faced a similar dilemma... Recently a new grandmother to a grandson I was lucky enough to see before all this broke out. Completely fell in love and miss him terribly. However even knowing how much I miss him I still crave to move to the coast. We currently live an hour away from our daughter and the move would mean we’d be about 2.5 hours away by car. I know I’m mad even thinking about the possibility of selling up in the current climate but I’m just yearning to be by the sea so much! We lived there for a about 3 years and due to circumstances moved back to just outside London 2 years ago. I feel hemmed in and just long for the sea breezes, big sky and endless horizon. I felt so much happier and motivated to get up for each day down there. My concern is that once this is over I will be seeing my daughter and grandson every week but if we move it would probably be once a month at most. I think she will be very hurt that we would willingly move further away. Anyone have any personal experiences or advice for me please?

Nannapat1 Tue 19-May-20 10:05:50

As far as I am aware, 'essential' construction work has never stopped, certainly not in the building of a new premises at the care home opposite us. I've no idea whether they could socially distance when working. Bu there again, neither have a number of other groups of key workers, prison officers for example. and I can't imagine that social distancing has been 100% maintained by those charged with looking after the young children of key workers!
at this point, with 3 year groups urged by the government to return to school in less than 2 weeks and people being urged to go to work if they can, it's no surprise that people are doing just that, whether or not they can always socially distance.

Daisymae Tue 19-May-20 10:04:39

The government have added the caveat 'where possible' which probably tells you all you need to know

KathyG54 Tue 19-May-20 10:00:03

Oopsadaisy yes totally agree !

Rosalyn69 Tue 19-May-20 09:57:25

And we can’t have the whole country locked down forever.

Rosalyn69 Tue 19-May-20 09:56:34

Perhaps spying is the wrong word. I see my neighbours go past my house. I view it as spying if I see they have visitors or are breaking the Rules but I don’t feel the need to report them to the police or get in any way bent out of shape about it. It’s their property.
And I believe a lot of people need to go to work either for financial reasons or their own mental well being. Also some people I’m sure are finding self isolation very hard.

sarahcyn Tue 19-May-20 09:53:17

In 3-4 weeks the numbers in hospital, and deaths, will start climbing again and all the lockdown sceptics will be saying "see, lockdown made no difference"

luluaugust Tue 19-May-20 09:52:44

Like maddyone we have builders working in the house opposite, not great social distancing but every window open. It's just like being at the theatre, scene one this morning arrival of loft insulation smile

Taliya Tue 19-May-20 09:51:43

Yep, alot of social distancing has gone out of the window and forgotten about...which is hardly surprising given the mixed messages coming from the government. The only good thing is that most guys on building sites are young so hopefully they won't be badly affected it they get Covid 19 and most older or vulnerable people are social distancing or self isolating?

Coconut Tue 19-May-20 09:51:37

Our directions in this crisis are so contradictory and just lead to individual interpretation... shambolic is the word !

LouLou21 Tue 19-May-20 09:46:36

We have a very large building site adjacent to our garden the workman have been there throughout the lockdown. No social distancing at all gathering in groups laughing and joking, I even heard one cough and say I’ve got the Coronavirus ha ha.

maddyone Mon 18-May-20 23:12:05

There may be other threads reporting alleged breaking of the rules, but as I have said, I couldn’t have missed what was happening unless I had closed my eyes whilst opening the curtains!

Do people approve of other people breaking the rules then? Perhaps people don’t need to worry about any family members becoming infected because they’re key workers or medics. I suspect that people with relatives working with Covid19 patients or the general public might take a different view.

JenniferEccles Mon 18-May-20 23:04:16

Hear hear Rosalyn69

There seem to be endless threads at the moment all reporting alleged breaking of the rules by neighbours.

maddyone Mon 18-May-20 22:58:02

Thank you for your comments everyone. Incidentally Rosalyn69 we were not ‘spying.’ The house is opposite our house and we live in a small, quiet close. The early morning noise woke me up, and caused me to look through the window as I opened the curtains and blind. Short of opening the curtains with my eyes closed, I couldn’t help seeing them.

Thank you WOODMOUSE49 for the information, but we’re not going to report them since we live in a close and everyone is on speaking terms with each other as it only has a few houses. As I said in my OP it’s not our business and if people are happy to take risks it’s up them. My only concern is that our daughter and her husband are doctors, as some of you may know, and as long as this virus keeps on infecting people through their irresponsible behaviour, then our girl and her husband have to keep on working in uncomfortable PPE, and giving palliative care to the sick. Our son in law works in the Covid19 Hub in our area and sees Covid19 patients three times a week. I would prefer they didn’t have to do this, and as long as irresponsible behaviour continues, then they are at risk.

EllanVannin Mon 18-May-20 19:02:28

Some people can't wait to get cracking, it's as if their lives depended on travel/holidays, shopping, hairdressers, you name it. It's as though nothing has occurred even though many thousands have died. I don't get it at all.

varian Mon 18-May-20 19:01:14

It does explain why so many stupid people voted the way that they did. Why did thew brexit nonsense ever happen? and why do we have a vote leave government? Because unfortunately a lot of stupid people believed their lies.

rosenoir Mon 18-May-20 18:42:35

I walk past an area where 5 new houses are being built, they have never stopped working.

Rosalyn69 Mon 18-May-20 18:21:03

Why don’t we just concentrate on what we are doing instead of this incessant spying on our neighbours?

Anniebach Mon 18-May-20 17:13:03

I have lost count of the number of telephone calls asking for
building work to be carried out, and quite a few by over 70’s.

Even a farmer asking for work to be carried out for less than
a quote he had received early this year because our firm must
need the work ?

We only have two working for call outs, this means two vans .

janeainsworth Mon 18-May-20 17:00:46

I’ve been very impressed with the firm we took on to add a sun-room to the back of our house.
They started on March 2nd and once it became apparent that there was going to be some sort of lockdown, worked all over the weekend to get the roof on and everything watertight before lockdown.

The firm’s owner sent us a proper risk assessment after we had discussed them finishing the job. One of them came today to do the plastering. He assured me he had all his own food & drinks & wouldn’t be coming into the house at all today, but that they all had proper PPE for if they do need work with more than one of them here at a time.